Belly Bob Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Rufus69 said: Hey Belly Bob.....Colquitt got lucky Saturday night. But thanks to our band...and cheerleaders...we were able to slip past them Catholics from St. Louis. It was downright tense....until the opening kickoff. Rufus>> You know the old saying: even a cur can whup a pitbull if the fight takes place on his home turf. Those poor undersized hogs did real good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 hours ago, abbatt said: Sammy, Only 2 teams from IL deserve to be considered this early in the season........LWE and Loyola should be Tier 5. I have LWE in Tier 4 currently. They have a good team, and had a solid (if unspectacular) week 1 win under their belt. I have Loyola in Tier 5. Phillips is at risk for being dumped based on the National TV showing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Folsom on the bubble for tier 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Bodysurf said: Sammy..... IMO you need to have JSerra above Santa Margarita and OLu. I know it’s early but JSerra looks like #3 in the Trinity based on what I have seen in the first two games. OLU looked pretty good against a much better team (Cen10). The Jserra vs OLLU game will be a barnburner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Rufus69 said: Sammy....leave Colquitt in Tier 3 for the time being. We got to get a couple of starters healthy...and our Man-Ster back from suspension before we show any movement. Rufus>> reverse psychology doesn't work on me. Colquitt is Tier 2 until I say otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: ... You are saying Grayson 48, Colquitt 17? Yeah, lets see bout that. Absolutely i was was being Generous i don’t even think they score 17 on Grayson Defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, Bestcoast said: Folsom on the bubble for tier 6. Its a very stressful time for the devil. They worked hard this week to get some points on the board in order to qualify for a Tier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPile Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 1:00 PM, Sammyswordsman said: Tier 6 Released Serra - San Mateo Evangel Christian (La) Don Bosco Columbia (FL) Helix Archbishop Wood Servite JSerra Santa Margarita Gonzaga Loyola Academy (IL) John Curtis Archbishop Rummel Lowndes *Not all Tier 6 teams are listed. Only the teams with supporters on this forum. If you have a personal interest in a team (your team) and want to see what level they would compete in, please ask. Seriously - Folsom would beat Servite by as many points as they wanted to. Take your head out of Disneyland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said: The concept is that there is clear separation between high school football teams that are not apparent looking only at W-L records. For Example. DJ would rank a 10-0 team (not naming names) in his Top 100, and not a 5-5 team which is actually the better team, but played a much tougher schedule. The Tiers will sort all of that out for the casual viewer. St. Louis has a legendary coach, and has been a national powerhouse program for a long time. They gave one of DLS better teams, all they could handle in the early 2000's. They also gave my team (St. Paul) who was a national powerhouse then, all they could handle too. Hawaii football is legit, and there are pleny of Samoans on those lines. There offense is run and gun and fun to watch. None of this has anything to do with how good they are in 2018. Except Samoans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 49 minutes ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: Absolutely i was was being Generous i don’t even think they score 17 on Grayson Defense Ill keep that prediction of yours in my back pocket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 I guess after reading through here... Cal Preps is concentrating efforts for readership in Moultrie as well. Seems a lot like they suddenly are moving Colquitt up into the top 15 now. At this rate, by the time Colquitt beats Grayson, they could be top 5. Sammy's Tiers and Cal Preps... The New and Improved USAT polls that cater to their readership! You heard it here first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, DogPile said: Seriously - Folsom would beat Servite by as many points as they wanted to. Take your head out of Disneyland. Only In your NoCal dreams. Not a chance in the real SoCal world 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bestcoast said: Only In your NoCal dreams. Not a chance in the real SoCal world 17 It’s fascinating that SoCal has their own version of block 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Extremely Humble said: It’s fascinating that SoCal has their own version of block Hey, it’s the extremely soft guy. You are a good fit for Folsom. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, DogPile said: Seriously - Folsom would beat Servite by as many points as they wanted to. Take your head out of Disneyland. People on pins and needles waiting to see where the devil gets placed. The devil needs to bring their "A" game next week. The East German judges (we outsourced the ranking overseas) are BRUTAL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: The concept is that there is clear separation between high school football teams that are not apparent looking only at W-L records. For Example. DJ would rank a 10-0 team (not naming names) in his Top 100, and not a 5-5 team which is actually the better team, but played a much tougher schedule. The Tiers will sort all of that out for the casual viewer. St. Louis has a legendary coach, and has been a national powerhouse program for a long time. They gave one of DLS better teams, all they could handle in the early 2000's. They also gave my team (St. Paul) who was a national powerhouse then, all they could handle too. Hawaii football is legit, and there are pleny of Samoans on those lines. There offense is run and gun and fun to watch. I would drop them to tier 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Extremely Humble said: It’s fascinating that SoCal has their own version of block Hey that's offensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 9 hours ago, DogPile said: Seriously - Folsom would beat Servite by as many points as they wanted to. Take your head out of Disneyland. Lol for sure. @Bestcoast is just your run of the mill local idiot. Folsom dominates what little is left in his head. Winning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 13 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Not many teams that generate 60 yards total offense and 2 first downs against a soft public school defense would qualify for Tier 2. Yeah that would be bad even DLS got 231 yards who are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Pops said: Yeah that would be bad even DLS got 231 yards who are you talking about? I dunno man. Just read stuff in the papers about the first half........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Tier 1 - Mater Dei, IMG, St. Johns, STA, SJB, Miami Central, Allen, Carol City Tier 2 - Lake Travis, St. Louis, DLS, Pickerington Central, Bingham, North shore (tx), SFA, Bergen Catholic, Mentor, Colquitt County, Cen10 Tier 3 - Colerain, ULab, Katy, Rome, Bishop Dunne, Milton, Folsom, Bishop Gorman, Centennieal AZ, Archer, St. Xavier, Grayson, Arch Bishop Hoban, Deerfield Beach Tier 4 - Converse Judson Tx, , Katy, Mission Viejo, OLU, Lincoln Way East (IL), Dematha, SJP, JSerra, Cardinal Gibbons, American Heritage Plantation, Jokes Christian, Marietta, St. IGGY, St. Edwards, Trinity* Warren Central, Gonzaga Tier 5 - SJR, Aledo, Buford, Upland, Blessed Trinity (Ga), Muskegon (Mi), East (SLC), Columbia (FL), Loyola Academy (IL), Walton, Chandler, Miami Northwestern, Lee County, Good Council, North Gwinett, SPP, Gonzaga, Servite, Phillips (IL), Duncanville (Tx) Tier 6 - DBP, John Curtis, Arch Bishop Rummel, Lowndes, Santa Margarita, Cajon Ca, Serra Gardena, Liberty NV, Saguaro *teams will not be considered to be in a Tier until they score a point ( if they have played a game). Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers. The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in. The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule. This is why the Tiers was created. *Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site. * The Tiers are fluid and subject to extreme fluctuations early in the year, leveling out as the year progresses. *Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order. In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses. *Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing. This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team. *The Tiers will ultimately be made up of (16) teams per Tier that would form competitive playoff brackets. *Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot. There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point. Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier. (Texas exempt) *Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings. *This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Tier 1 - Mater Dei, IMG, St. Johns, STA, SFA, SJB, Tier 2 - Cardinal Gibbons, Lake Travis, St. Louis, Colquitt County, North Gwinett, Miami Central, Allen, DLS, Bergen Catholic, Pickerington Central, Bingham Tier 3 - Colerain, ULab, Arch Bishop Hoban, Katy, Rome, Warren Central, Good Council, Mentor, Duncanville (TX), Cen10, Carol City (fla), Bishop Dunne, Milton, Tier 4 - Grayson, Folsom, Converse Judson Tx, , North Shore (Tx), Mission Viejo, OLU, SPP, Lincoln Way East (IL), Dematha, Archer, Deerfield Beach, St. Xavier, St. Iggy Tier 5 - Serra (Gardena), Jokes Christian, SJR, SJP, Aledo, Buford, St. Iggy, Upland, Blessed Trinity (Ga), Muskegon (Mi), East (SLC)American Heritage (Fl), Saguaro, Columbia (FL), Loyola Academy (IL), JSerra, Walton, Marietta, , Chandler, Bishop Gorman, Liberty NV, Miami Northwestern Tier 6 - Servite, DBP, Gonzaga, John Curtis, Arch Bishop Rummel, Lowndes, Phllips (IL), Trinity*, Santa Margarita, Cajon Ca, St. Edwards *teams will not be considered to be in a Tier until they score a point ( if they have played a game). Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers. The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in. The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule. This is why the Tiers was created. *Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site. *Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order. In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses. *Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing. This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team6 *The Tiers will ultimately be made up of (16) teams per Tier that would form competitive playoff brackets. *Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot. There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point. Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier. (Texas exempt) *Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings. *This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate DLS is too high at this point in the season. Their offense is coming along -- better throws and routes last night than in the previous two weeks, fewer missed blocks, better downhill running from the backs. But 2 still seems too high, given they've got a young QB, young running RBs, young receivers, and a new O-line. I would put them in Tier 3 for now, given where you've got Folsom, Cen10, and OLu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Tier 3 Milton beat your Tier 2 Cardinal Gibbons 42-17 What does Lee Co. gotta do to get some tier love... beat the defending FL 8A Champs 35-3? Check. Beat the GA 3A Runner Ups 33-0... ? Yeeah. Lee Co. is pretty darn good. I dont think theyve given up over 100 total yards yet through 3 games combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Tier 3 Milton beat your Tier 2 Cardinal Gibbons 42-17 That was a typo. Cardinal Gibbons is Tier 5 and has been adjusted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Sammyswordsman said: That was a typo. Cardinal Gibbons is Tier 5 and has been adjusted I edited that post with some facts... need you to check out Lee Co.... they are even rising in the Georgia hating CalPreps ratings.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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