DevilDog Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Klein Oak was able to beat 2nd round Texas teams and play a semifinalist from Texas to a 7 point game Aledo vs Guyer Guyer 60 Aledo 57 So this team in your 4th class, played the team we're talking about to a 3 point game, but this Guyer team will roll Servite. Yea, k Do you understand the concept of what happened one year have no reflection on the next. Do I think because DLS lost to ET that magically ET is perpetually better than them? That's silly. Aledo teams are not all the same every damn year as is no others. In Texas every year I can show all kind of examples from 4A - 6A tying things up to make a point. Aledo played without their best player in that game. It's like Liberty beating Westlake withOUT Ehlinger . I have no dog in the fight with Aledo vs. Amat. You should use it forever to prove a point about Aledo and Texas. Archive it and bookmark it. Let it not have an expiration. The Year ET beat DLS. 5A Lancaster gave them a game just as tough. See how that works. Also SLC was a tougher game. DLS was not their toughest opponent in 2015. 2015 ET 12 Lancaster 8 end of 3rd qtr . ET 19 DLS 14 end of 3rd. Took a 12 pt lead in the 4th. DLS throws hail mary trick play at games end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Yea right. See, that's the problem, you inflate those teams That's the problem you inflate those teams - Denton Guyer has better team than Servite and anyone with decent football eye can see that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Guru said: "Guyer would beat Servite like a base drum!" (Guyer-Servite announced for 2020) I would like nothing more for game between Servite and Guyer to be announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Texasball said: That's the problem you inflate those teams - Denton Guyer has better team than Servite and anyone with decent football eye can see that! Denton Guyer has no defense. 0, nada, zilch against a competent offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, DevilDog said: Do you understand the concept of what happened one year have no reflection on the next. Do I think because DLS lost to ET that magically ET is perpetually better than them. That's silly. Aledo teams are not all the same every damn year as is no others. In Texas every year I can show all kind of examples from 4A - 6A tying things up to make a point. Aledo played without their best player in that game. It's like Liberty beating Westlake with Ehlinger . I have no dog in the fight with Aledo vs. Amat. You should use it forever to prove a point about Aledo and Texas. It has no expiration. The Year ET beat DLS. 5A Lancaster gave them a game just as tough. See how that works. Also SLC was a tougher game. DLS was not their toughest opponent. 2015 ET 12 Lancaster 8 end of 3rd qtr . ET 19 DLS 14 end of 3rd. Took a 12 pt lead in the 4th. DLS throws hail mary trick play at games end. ET was gifted a TD before halftime as well. You think Lancaster could've beaten DLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Denton Guyer has no defense. 0, nada, zilch against a competent offense and Servite does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalTX Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Texasball said: That's the problem you inflate those teams - Denton Guyer has better team than Servite and anyone with decent football eye can see that! I believe, as do most coaches that the resulting TX football champion is the best single team per their Division, as a result of the 64 team bracket starting position Like March madness does it. The D1 6A team is usually considered the best among all teams, with some exception every now and then being the 6A D2, or 5A team that has cred. This year, if Guyer wins the state title (6A D2) will not be considered the best given the level of competition in 6A D1. Nothing taken away from their QB, but a QB does not a football team make. Servite, this year is demoted below the MD/SJB level, much like Guyer below Dville/North Shore/SLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, Texasball said: and Servite does? They've done much better against competent offenses Im sure you think Guyer would easily dispatch of CC to huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Denton Guyer has no defense. 0, nada, zilch against a competent offense Guyer has better offense than Servite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, steeler01 said: ET was gifted a TD before halftime as well. You think Lancaster could've beaten DLS What TD was gifted. ET also fumbled ona drive going in for a TD. You think DLS would have beat everyone in Texas that year? DLS would get smoked after the 3rd most years here in Texas. That's what makes them a Joke with 7 Championships in 14 years. No one here have more than 8 in 97 years. I don't know what they would have done to Lancaster since other 5A teams equaled SGP who beat ET. So hell I guess anything is possible in a State with a lot of quality teams. ET had a 98 yard drive against DLS a school Record and passed the ball twice. They mashed them for 98 yards. JaRon Wilson made All State running over DLS. ET is not a Texas Speed team either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, DevilDog said: What TD was gifted. ET also fumbled ona drive going in for a TD. You think DLS would have beat everyone in Texas that year? DLS would get smoked after the 3rd most years here in Texas. That's what makes them a Joke with 7 Championships in 14 years. No one here have more than 8 in 97 years. I don't know what they would have done to Lancaster since other 5A teams equaled SGP who beat ET. So hell I guess anything is possible in a State with a lot of quality teams. ET had a 98 yard drive against DLS a school Record and passed the ball twice. They mashed them for 98 yards. JaRon Wilson made All State running over DLS. The reverse fumble. DLS runs the ball out there instead of being stupid aggressive they're up at the half They should've been able to run the clock out at the end to, but couldn't Devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Texasball said: Guyer has better offense than Servite. They might But They have a much worse defense to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: They've done much better against competent offenses Im sure you think Guyer would easily dispatch of CC to huh This CC team wasn't all that this year... Talk about team who has zero defense vs any competent offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted December 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: The reverse fumble. DLS runs the ball out there instead of being stupid aggressive they're up at the half Do you think DLS would have 7 Texas State Championships in the last 14 years? We know they would not in 2015 with their most talented team in those 14 years. This should be fun. They did this in your Big Boy Football. Hell ET has lost to a 5A team over the last 5 years. That's why we don't get all giddy over the smack about these greatest teams ever. We heard this 3.5 years ago. You are free to reference Aledo vs. Amat as a get out of jail free card as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 57 minutes ago, Texasball said: Trinity league is silky soft outside of the big 2 MD nor SJB has great defense. I have been saying all year that MD defense could be had. SFA offense does not strike fear in anyone...They are one dimensional run heavy offense. The schedule was brought up by Steeler How do we even know without shadow of doubt that SFA is all that - See schedule already done playing - played couple of good teams and got beat in one of those. If the trinity is silky soft what is Slc’s schedule called? Garbage or trash? Now back to the original question, does Slc put up those numbers playing anyone decent? SFA SJC SJB Cen10 Az st champ? That’s 5 teams that probably beat Slc, 4 beat them for sure. Interesting that SFA is in question now. Did a number on IMG worse than anyone ever has but i’m assuming IMG is no good & their defense isn’t as good as anyone of Slc’s opponents defenses correct? So again, are you saying that Slc puts up those numbers with MD’s schedule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Just now, DevilDog said: Do you think DLS would have 7 Texas State Championships in the last 14 years? We know they would not in 2015 with their most talented team in those 14 years. This should be fun. They did this in your Big Boy Football. That's why we don't get all giddy over the smack about these greatest teams ever. We heard this 3.5 years ago. No, I also don't think they beat 2014/2015 SJB but they didn't get to play because of the set up Had CC miraculously beaten SJB and MD they'd still be huge underdogs vs DLS this year because of the match up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: They might But They have a much worse defense to we all have opinions. Would love to see that match up in the near future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Texasball said: This CC team wasn't all that this year... Every Texas team would beat every OSS team like a drum and every OOS team wasn't all that. We know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 @DevilDog what makes you think Aledo is better this year then in 2014? Aledo ran through teams a lot of you said they wouldn't that year(John Tyler comes to mind) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Texasball said: This CC team wasn't all that this year... Talk about team who has zero defense vs any competent offense. And I would gladly take them vs Guyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, DevilDog said: Do you think DLS would have 7 Texas State Championships in the last 14 years? We know they would not in 2015 with their most talented team in those 14 years. No, we don't. We know that they lost one regular season game by one score. 2-loss Westlake and 3-loss North Shore played for the 6A-I title that year. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, HurricaneNick said: If the trinity is silky soft what is Slc’s schedule called? Garbage or trash? Garbage is my word of choice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, The Guru said: They can't. You notice the quality of their responses? That's all they've got. It’s interesting that the trinity league is silky soft when it’s common knowledge that there isn’t one district in tx that’s as good. Funny how that works 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, HurricaneNick said: If the trinity is silky soft what is Slc’s schedule called? Garbage or trash? Now back to the original question, does Slc put up those numbers playing anyone decent? SFA SJC SJB Cen10 Az st champ? That’s 5 teams that probably beat Slc, 4 beat them for sure. Interesting that SFA is in question now. Did a number on IMG worse than anyone ever has but i’m assuming IMG is no good & their defense isn’t as good as anyone of Slc’s opponents defenses correct? So again, are you saying that Slc puts up those numbers with MD’s schedule? I have already given my opinion on SFA ---Way too many unknowns - There schedule sucks. SJC - would get whooped by several teams down here. Cent AZ - went 9-2 this year got beat by Hamilton. I have watched Hamilton this year and they are not very good. In fact I made post couple of weeks ago saying that I believe AZ was way down this year. I watched both of the semi final games this year on the NHFS network. My personal opinion is that the good ole boy ranking system worked in the favor of MD / SJB this year - Everyone said they was super duper good before they ever lined up. MD is one dimensional this year and the defense was good but not great and it finally got them beat. SJB is not the only one who could have done that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Texasball said: I have already given my opinion on SFA ---Way too many unknowns - There schedule sucks. Why don't you apply this same logic to Texas? Their schedules are by and large complete trash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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