badrouter Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: When you factor Laklands best victory is vs. #275 Apokta and their overall opponents are negative 10 in won loss record, it appears that Lakeland went out of their way to schedule teams they though they could compete with. That tells us all we need to know about the confidence Lakelands staff had in their team this year. Why weren't the Fla big boys on the schedule? At least MV and OLU play the big boy schools in Calif. Lakeland not so much Ah, finally, here we go. #275 according to who? Nobody. A calpreps computer that has been discredited for years as a means of comparing teams 2,500 miles apart with no common opponents and no common opponents of opponents (or twenty more chains away). Manatee and Apopka have both played on the national stage and both on multiple occasions. They are known by everyone in the state and everyone with a pulse outside of it. Absolutely no reason to believe either was going to be a pushover. And either is. Both have one bad loss to teams they were huge favorites against. Otherwise they've been strong teams this season. You speculating about Lakeland's coaches' confidence in the team is hilarious. You providing absolutely zero case justifying Mission Viejo being ranked ahead of Lakeland yet still maintaining they should be is also hilarious. The vaild arguments against Lakeland are totally plausible...within a context of them being discussed for being ranked top 10 nationally. But, the fact that they don't show up in any top 25s or most top 50 rankings is an effing joke. At least if you try to do any sort of breakdown of the teams, their strengths, weaknesses etc. Football is still a game played on the field. If MV had to play Lakeland, they wouldn't be able to just trot out some calpreps computer rankings. They'd actually have to try to block that front seven. Etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, badrouter said: Ah, finally, here we go. #275 according to who? Nobody. A calpreps computer that has been discredited for years as a means of comparing teams 2,500 miles apart with no common opponents and no common opponents of opponents (or twenty more chains away). Manatee and Apopka have both played on the national stage and both on multiple occasions. They are known by everyone in the state and everyone with a pulse outside of it. Absolutely no reason to believe either was going to be a pushover. And either is. Both have one bad loss to teams they were huge favorites against. Otherwise they've been strong teams this season. You speculating about Lakeland's coaches' confidence in the team is hilarious. You providing absolutely zero case justifying Mission Viejo being ranked ahead of Lakeland yet still maintaining they should be is also hilarious. The vaild arguments against Lakeland are totally plausible...within a context of them being discussed for being ranked top 10 nationally. But, the fact that they don't show up in any top 25s or most top 50 rankings is an effing joke. At least if you try to do any sort of breakdown of the teams, their strengths, weaknesses etc. Football is still a game played on the field. If MV had to play Lakeland, they wouldn't be able to just trot out some calpreps computer rankings. They'd actually have to try to block that front seven. Etc I'm not claiming that MV or OLU would beat Lakeland, or that Lakeland would beat them or even Folsom. Just that Lakeland chose to schedule down, and that allows for doubt to creep in. Who will Lakeland face in the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: I'm not claiming that MV or OLU would beat Lakeland, or that Lakeland would beat them or even Folsom. Just that Lakeland chose to schedule down, and that allows for doubt to creep in. Who will Lakeland face in the playoffs? If they win out, Tampa Plant, Columbia, and STA. Or team(s) who beat those teams. IF, and it is of course a big if, they go 15-0 and knock off Plant, Columbia and STA, people will REALLY need to stroke those computer rankings to try to justify keeping Lakeland out of the top 5-10 nationally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 FYI, MV was penalized a ton last night. Some 15 yarders. This is something Sponge Bob wouldn't tolerate. Hell, he'd scream at QBs for throwing TD passes to the wrong read. They really play undisciplined football. That's all on CJ. He needs to learn to reign in his players. MV is too talented to lose to any SCL school, even San Clam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 @badrouter I tried to save you bro. I told you the end of ends will be "because they beat OLU" and that you should fold the tent and go home. The #whatever thing comes from CP whose #comes from them beating OLU who started out too high to begin with. It's like fighting quicksand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, NotBigdaddybloom said: Smdh...you jokers saying mv and Folsom same level as the huskies... CC two scores better than Folsom. Folsom 2 scores better than MV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheClock Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Those who like to predict the brackets, does MV end up on the CC/MD side or the Bosco side of the bracket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, RuntheClock said: Those who like to predict the brackets, does MV end up on the CC/MD side or the Bosco side of the bracket? I assume Sjb gets 1 seed MD or cc 2/3 interchangeably the question is what seed MV gets? Someone said forfeits won’t impact seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, badrouter said: If they win out, Tampa Plant, Columbia, and STA. Or team(s) who beat those teams. IF, and it is of course a big if, they go 15-0 and knock off Plant, Columbia and STA, people will REALLY need to stroke those computer rankings to try to justify keeping Lakeland out of the top 5-10 nationally. Agreed if they run the table, they would be Top 10 at worst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 44 minutes ago, badrouter said: Ah, finally, here we go. #275 according to who? Nobody. A calpreps computer that has been discredited for years as a means of comparing teams 2,500 miles apart with no common opponents and no common opponents of opponents (or twenty more chains away). Manatee and Apopka have both played on the national stage and both on multiple occasions. They are known by everyone in the state and everyone with a pulse outside of it. Absolutely no reason to believe either was going to be a pushover. And either is. Both have one bad loss to teams they were huge favorites against. Otherwise they've been strong teams this season. You speculating about Lakeland's coaches' confidence in the team is hilarious. You providing absolutely zero case justifying Mission Viejo being ranked ahead of Lakeland yet still maintaining they should be is also hilarious. The vaild arguments against Lakeland are totally plausible...within a context of them being discussed for being ranked top 10 nationally. But, the fact that they don't show up in any top 25s or most top 50 rankings is an effing joke. At least if you try to do any sort of breakdown of the teams, their strengths, weaknesses etc. Football is still a game played on the field. If MV had to play Lakeland, they wouldn't be able to just trot out some calpreps computer rankings. They'd actually have to try to block that front seven. Etc Skyway's back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocet 98 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 Congrats to San Clemente, they earned it. A 42 game leaque win streak has ended and they won for the first time in 18 years. Again Congrats to SC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, RuntheClock said: Those who like to predict the brackets, does MV end up on the CC/MD side or the Bosco side of the bracket? We'll have a better sense once the CIF poll is released on Monday. MV losing really shakes things up. Previously, as a league #1 and the "5 seed" they would have been on SJB/Oaks side of the bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: Skyway's back 'sup 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 hours ago, NotBigdaddybloom said: Smdh...you jokers saying mv and Folsom same level as the huskies... MV shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Folsom. Folsom would smack the shit out of them. Only teams in SoCal that could play with Folsom are SJB, MD, C10, and JSerra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBigdaddybloom Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Extremely Humble said: MV shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Folsom. Folsom would smack the shit out of them. Only teams in SoCal that could play with Folsom are SJB, MD, C10, and JSerra. Welcome back block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exocet 98 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Extremely Humble said: MV shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath as Folsom. Folsom would smack the shit out of them. Only teams in SoCal that could play with Folsom are SJB, MD, C10, and JSerra. Folsom could have decided it on the field in 2015 at Sac , but they CHOKED on their own field against Bells. Fearing to have to play MV. Who were SHUTOUT by Mission Viejo a week later. Folsom has never beaten DLS. Folsom does not know what it feels like to defeat DLS at DLS and too take a knee in the redzone at home for the win. Folsom is just another NorCal baby seal slap dick notch in DLS's belt ( 3 notches ) LOL!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremely Humble Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Exocet 98 said: Folsom could have decided it on the field in 2015 at Sac , but they CHOKED on their own field against Bells. Fearing to have to play MV. Who were SHUTOUT by Mission Viejo a week later. Folsom has never beaten DLS. Folsom does not know what it feels like to defeat DLS at DLS and too take a knee in the redzone at home for the win. Folsom is just another NorCal baby seal slap dick notch in DLS's belt ( 3 notches ) LOL!!!!!! 2015 was Folsom’s worst team in recent memory. MV was much better than Folsom that year. Just like Folsom is much better than MV this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, NotBigdaddybloom said: Welcome back block... No. We’ve beaten this horse to death. He’s not block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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