Does Bama still get in playoff if they lose?

[Cossacks]

Assuming everything else plays out as expected. If Alabama loses this week are they still in? A late season loss? Not winning your conference? But still arguably the best team in the nation?

Georgia, ND and Clemson would be 3. But does Bama get the nod over OU or OSU? Sorry UCF you fall under the Johnny Stanton rule with Milton gone and don’t have a chance.

[954gator]

Probably

[Sammyswordsman]

37 minutes ago, Cossacks said:

Assuming everything else plays out as expected. If Alabama loses this week are they still in? A late season loss? Not winning your conference? But still arguably the best team in the nation?

Georgia, ND and Clemson would be 3. But does Bama get the nod over OU or OSU? Sorry UCF you fall under the Johnny Stanton rule with Milton gone and don’t have a chance.

Yes per the USAT rule, late season losses are irrelevant 

[Columbiafan]

Yes in fact I'm sure ESPN hopes bama loses bc it's only way to get 2 sec teams in there 

[Omaha Vol]

Yes

[ECHS05]

20 minutes ago, Columbiafan said:

Yes in fact I'm sure ESPN hopes bama loses bc it's only way to get 2 sec teams in there 

If Georgia plays Alabama close in a loss... I wouldnt rule out Georgia still going. Its not all about W/Ls

They want to find the 4 best teams, regardless. Losing to Bama wouldnt make Georgia not one of the 4 best teams.

[Columbiafan]

5 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

If Georgia plays Alabama close in a loss... I wouldnt rule out Georgia still going. Its not all about W/Ls

They want to find the 4 best teams, regardless. Losing to Bama wouldnt make Georgia not one of the 4 best teams.

Using best 4 teams logic a team like bama could be considered one of 4 "best" at 6-6 record

 

In fact why not just take the top 4 teams with highest recruiting class average since it would be the 4 most talented teams? 

 

At some point resume has to matter

 

You will have a 1 loss big 12 champ and 1 loss big 10 champ potentially fighting for 1 spot 

 

How can they justify putting a 2 loss team who didn't even win their conference in over both? 

 

If Oklahoma and Ohio State both lose then ok maybe it's possible but if either or both win there is no way Georgia gets in without beating Bama 

[ECHS05]

17 minutes ago, Columbiafan said:

Using best 4 teams logic a team like bama could be considered one of 4 "best" at 6-6 record

 

In fact why not just take the top 4 teams with highest recruiting class average since it would be the 4 most talented teams? 

 

At some point resume has to matter

 

You will have a 1 loss big 12 champ and 1 loss big 10 champ potentially fighting for 1 spot 

 

How can they justify putting a 2 loss team who didn't even win their conference in over both? 

 

If Oklahoma and Ohio State both lose then ok maybe it's possible but if either or both win there is no way Georgia gets in without beating Bama 

Youre wrong. ... I hate when people say shit like that... Nobody would have Bama Top 4 at 6-6 unless theyd lost to the #1, #2, & #3 teams twice each... Might be possible then. Or if they had crazy good wins.

W/L record doesnt determine shit. Well...its about 20% of the pie... Overall body of work, how teams are playing now... And simply who is playing the best.

Oklahoma defense is awful... They just about HAVE to score 60 points a week to win their games. OK has to play Texas

Ohio St. lost by 29 to Purdue and hasnt looked great except against Michigan. Ohio St. has to Northwestern...

GA is 11-1 and is playing the very well... They are about to play the #1 team in America that some are calling one of the best teams ever, that hasnt had a game within 22 points yet. Should they really be punished if they lose a very close game? While ND doesnt even play a Conference Championship.... And Clemson is playing fugging Pitt. OSU is playing Northwestern... C'mon.

Kirk Herbstreit agrees. Mark my words, if GA loses a very close one, it may cause an uproar...but UGA may still go. 

[Columbiafan]

16 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

Youre wrong. ... I hate when people say shit like that... Nobody would have Bama Top 4 at 6-6 unless theyd lost to the #1, #2, & #3 teams twice each... Might be possible then. Or if they had crazy good wins.

W/L record doesnt determine shit. Well...its about 20% of the pie... Overall body of work, how teams are playing now... And simply who is playing the best.

Oklahoma defense is awful... They just about HAVE to score 60 points a week to win their games. OK has to play Texas

Ohio St. lost by 29 to Purdue and hasnt looked great except against Michigan. Ohio St. has to Northwestern...

GA is 11-1 and is playing the very well... They are about to play the #1 team in America that some are calling one of the best teams ever, that hasnt had a game within 22 points yet. Should they really be punished if they lose a very close game? While ND doesnt even play a Conference Championship.... And Clemson is playing fugging Pitt. OSU is playing Northwestern... C'mon.

Kirk Herbstreit agrees. Mark my words, if GA loses a very close one, it may cause an uproar...but UGA may still go. 

The point I'm making is the way they have done it the top 4 is subjective 

 

By saying "best 4 teams" they have made it clear they don't care about the records so what's stopping them from doing what i just described?? 

 

 

I don't think Notre Dame should be in because they aren't power 5 and barley escaped a 7 loss USC team and barley escaped northwestern and the best win Notre Dame had was Michigan who was just obliterated by Ohio State but money talks

 

Notre Dame is in there for name alone 

 

 

Idc if herbstreit agrees,  the guy is like the rest of ESPN so called "geniuses" can't even get simple facts right

 

Like that moron kept claiming Shawn Wade was a IMG player when he went to frekin Trinity Christian

 

Shows how much research that clown does

[zulu1128]

ECHS' hot takes still never disappoint. 

[NYHSFAN33]

1 hour ago, ECHS05 said:

If Georgia plays Alabama close in a loss... I wouldnt rule out Georgia still going. Its not all about W/Ls

They want to find the 4 best teams, regardless. Losing to Bama wouldnt make Georgia not one of the 4 best teams.

If Georgia loses they are out unless Oklahoma and OSU both lose, then they would still have a shot.  There’s really no discussion past that.  If they put a 2 loss GA team in over a 1 loss conf champ, the playoff committee loses all credibility.  It’s already a joke that’s it’s not an 8 team playoff (5 major conf champs + 3 at large)

[Mjd33]

Bama could lose by multiple tds and still get in the playoff. 

[ECHS05]

27 minutes ago, NYHSFAN33 said:

If Georgia loses they are out unless Oklahoma and OSU both lose, then they would still have a shot.  There’s really no discussion past that.  If they put a 2 loss GA team in over a 1 loss conf champ, the playoff committee loses all credibility.  It’s already a joke that’s it’s not an 8 team playoff (5 major conf champs + 3 at large)

Its not about # of Ls though. The committee made that clear. SoS, MoV, recent results & play are more important.

 

[954gator]

1 hour ago, ECHS05 said:

Its not about # of Ls though. The committee made that clear. SoS, MoV, recent results & play are more important.

 

Don’t see it happening my friend.   

[ECHS05]

Just now, 954gator said:

Don’t see it happening my friend.   

What if GA loses in 2 OTs to Bama?

Why would you move a team from #4, for losing to the #1 team in 2 OTs... Shouldnt that be expected? 

They shouldnt worry about what people say.... Oklahoma has a terrible D, and OSU was blown out by Purdue & struggled for much of the season. 1 win over Michigan doesnt erase that.

Ls should have nothing to do with it... The way a team is playing is all that matters. And people can call that subjective but its not. We can tell when 1 team is clearly playing better than another.

[RedZone]

7 hours ago, Cossacks said:

Assuming everything else plays out as expected. If Alabama loses this week are they still in? A late season loss? Not winning your conference? But still arguably the best team in the nation?

Georgia, ND and Clemson would be 3. But does Bama get the nod over OU or OSU? Sorry UCF you fall under the Johnny Stanton rule with Milton gone and don’t have a chance.

Georgia does NOT have a prayer.......gump gonna gump for 4 quarters...Dogs maybe 2...

[954gator]

6 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

What if GA loses in 2 OTs to Bama?

Why would you move a team from #4, for losing to the #1 team in 2 OTs... Shouldnt that be expected? 

They shouldnt worry about what people say.... Oklahoma has a terrible D, and OSU was blown out by Purdue & struggled for much of the season. 1 win over Michigan doesnt erase that.

Ls should have nothing to do with it... The way a team is playing is all that matters. And people can call that subjective but its not. We can tell when 1 team is clearly playing better than another.

won’t happen IMO, not with other 1 loss teams and UCF being undefeated again.  Playoffs weren’t meant to be a second chance at your season.  Bama got lucky with circumstances last year.  A lot of teams would have to lose for that to happen.

[Nolebull813]

I'll save you the hassle. 

Bama beats Georgia

Oklahoma beats Texas

Clemson beats Pitt

Bama beats Oklahoma 

Clemson beats Notre Dame 

Bama beats Clemson 

[ECHS05]

3 minutes ago, 954gator said:

won’t happen IMO, not with other 1 loss teams and UCF being undefeated again.  Playoffs weren’t meant to be a second chance at your season.  Bama got lucky with circumstances last year.  A lot of teams would have to lose for that to happen.

And yet Bama would get a 2nd chance If they lose to Georgia.

The playoffs are meant to get the 4 best teams together to play to see which one is the best.

And Ohio St. & Oklahoma have already lost to inferior teams.... If either went thatd definitely be a 2nd chance. Who loses to Purdue by 29 points & still makes the playoffs? 

Its sad a team moves in for no other reason than they were next in line... Not necessarily the best team for the spot.

[954gator]

1 minute ago, ECHS05 said:

And yet Bama would get a 2nd chance If they lose to Georgia.

The playoffs are meant to get the 4 best teams together to play to see which one is the best.

And Ohio St. & Oklahoma have already lost to inferior teams.... If either went thatd definitely be a 2nd chance. Who loses to Purdue by 29 points & still makes the playoffs? 

Its sad a team moves in for no other reason than they were next in line... Not necessarily the best team for the spot.

Best 1 loss team though.  With 2 Bama would be out as well.

[ECHS05]

Just now, 954gator said:

Best 1 loss team though.  With 2 Bama would be out as well.

What does # of losses matter.... Quality of loss is more important & SoS.

Which is made apparent by UCF on the outside looking in the last 2 seasons. 

You may as well throw in every undefeated team if you want to do it that way.

[ECHS05]

4 minutes ago, 954gator said:

Best 1 loss team though.  With 2 Bama would be out as well.

What you said in the bolded part is what matters.

Not some fans being upset because a 1 loss team didnt get in over a better 2 loss team.

This is the only question that matters... Going by each teams results...

If Oklahoma, Ohio St., and Georgia all played each other... Who would you pick to win the most games, or to look the most impressive.

Its pretty clear those 3 are gonna fight for the #4 spot unless something drastic happens....... So who looks like the best team of the 3? Thats the only thing that should matter. Thats why the committee said they picked Bama over Ohio St. last year... Because they thought Bama was better.

 

[Mjd33]

In 2014 Ohio state lost at home in the regular season to an unranked Virginia Tech Team by multiple tds. 

Osu still got in as a 4 seed and won it. 

[ECHS05]

I personally think the playoffs should be 6 teams. There's usually never more than 6 teams thatll contend anyway. 8 would be ok too I guess.

Have 1 & 2 as byes. 3 play 6 & 4 play 5.... Winner of 3 & 6 plays #1, winner of 4 & 5 plays #2... Then the winner play in the Natty.

[THS2011]

This season's poll is by far the biggest SEC bias I've seen to date. 8 teams ranked. 4 in the top ten. I guess we'll see how good they are in the bowl games, it just blows my mind though.