BobbySanchez Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 https://usatodayhss.com/2018/culture-change-turned-st-john-bosco-jason-negro-into-trinity-league-powerhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS_Spartan Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 cHaNgE iN cUlTuRe you mean change in recruiting players from in and out of state? 2 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, DLS_Spartan said: cHaNgE iN cUlTuRe you mean change in recruiting players from in and out of state? Boy that’s a salty bunch up north 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLS350 Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 Change in culture all right, Socal has turned int an arms race. Oh wait, I’m sounding bitter again as someone has pointed out to me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 48 minutes ago, DLS350 said: Change in culture all right, Socal has turned int an arms race. Oh wait, I’m sounding bitter again as someone has pointed out to me. The second phase of self awareness is 2. You know when your F’ng up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 hour ago, DLS350 said: Change in culture all right, Socal has turned int an arms race. Oh wait, I’m sounding bitter again as someone has pointed out to me. It's not just SoCal. It's a nationwide (worldwide?) phenomenon. It won't stop until the public-the market-stops supporting (watching, buying, talking etc) it. I think we're on the way to that point. But, not on course to get there in the next decade or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted August 4, 2019 Report Share Posted August 4, 2019 I just don’t understand why people worry about what someone else is doing 🤷🏽♂️ If you like the way your school is doing things then why the whining about what someone else is doing especially when no rules are being broken. it just comes off as being a hater and bitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted August 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 I would like to stay, there have been tons of teams like Serra from Gardena, IMG, LBP, Narbone etc who under perform with the talent they had. SJB does deserve some credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Ararar said: I just don’t understand why people worry about what someone else is doing 🤷🏽♂️ If you like the way your school is doing things then why the whining about what someone else is doing especially when no rules are being broken. it just comes off as being a hater and bitter I think it comes from comparing teams that are operating under completely different rule sets in these polls. As long as they are all being compared in the same polls as if they're all operating under the same pretenses and sets of rules, we will have these complaints. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 SJB changed the culture in September of 2002 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Boy that’s a salty bunch up north No just the concord bullies of the north section. They're not used to losing these many state games in a row. They get the cream of the crop up north but are salty cuz SJB and MD have better pickings down south. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, old_e said: No just the concord bullies of the north section. They're not used to losing these many state games in a row. They get the cream of the crop up north but are salty cuz SJB and MD have better pickings down south. Their overall SBG record is about to turn .500 and that train is heading for a cliff I tried to tell them that Changes needed to be made. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: I think it comes from comparing teams that are operating under completely different rule sets in these polls. As long as they are all being compared in the same polls as if they're all operating under the same pretenses and sets of rules, we will have these complaints. But polls are just opinions and math they don’t mean anything really so why the consternation about them? if you like how you school operates why would you even care what some guys poll says? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 SJB does deserve credit. This figures to be a generally slow team offensively, yet they will be prolific on the scoreboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 17 minutes ago, badrouter said: SJB does deserve credit. This figures to be a generally slow team offensively, yet they will be prolific on the scoreboard. In the 90's we used to say..."there is speed,...and then there is Poly speed". Now SJB gets the kids from the Poly neighborhoods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbySanchez Posted August 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 SJB reminds me so much of STA back in those days when they just terrorized and bullied every out of state and fellow Florida teams. Mater Dei reminds me of Manatee and how they would go back and forth with STA for the MNC 1 Crown. They are just oozing with talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, badrouter said: SJB does deserve credit. This figures to be a generally slow team offensively, yet they will be prolific on the scoreboard. Their rb's certainly are not slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, Ararar said: But polls are just opinions and math they don’t mean anything really so why the consternation about them? if you like how you school operates why would you even care what some guys poll says? Human nature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: In the 90's we used to say..."there is speed,...and then there is Poly speed". Now SJB gets the kids from the Poly neighborhoods. The skill position guys they figure to feature this year aren't particularly quick or fast. It looks to be a very big team with a gunslinger at QB. But, not a particularly fast group by the standards of a supposedly elite team nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 9 hours ago, CaliNorth said: Their rb's certainly are not slow I'm not sure about all of them, but the 3* senior RB Jones listed on 247 has a 40 time of 4.76. Now, relative to most HS RBs, there's nothing slow about that, indeed. And, the defenses he figures to face most weeks (they don't play Mater Dei most weeks) in California don't figure to be extremely fast. So, we have every reason to believe he will post huge numbers, especially given the up-tempo offense with the gunslinger at QB. But, at 4.76, he likely would be slower than any of the players in the back seven on any/all of the elite defenses in Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, badrouter said: I'm not sure about all of them, but the 3* senior RB Jones listed on 247 has a 40 time of 4.76. Now, relative to most HS RBs, there's nothing slow about that, indeed. And, the defenses he figures to face most weeks (they don't play Mater Dei most weeks) in California don't figure to be extremely fast. So, we have every reason to believe he will post huge numbers, especially given the up-tempo offense with the gunslinger at QB. But, at 4.76, he likely would be slower than any of the players in the back seven on any/all of the elite defenses in Florida. I'm just going off of the past. I don't know what Bosco brings with rb this yr. I agree with your statement that they do appear to play slow. Their offense is just set up that way. They use their power and size on the line to try and steamroll teams, but as you say, with their qb, they look to be more explosive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 18 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: In the 90's we used to say..."there is speed,...and then there is Poly speed". Now SJB gets the kids from the Poly neighborhoods. LOL They also said those kids have no heart too. That if you punch a Poly kid in the mouth, he won't want any fight. That was also true as I went 2-0 vs them as a kid on a team with absolutely no team speed. We had like 2 guys run 4.6s. lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigrobstercraws said: LOL They also said those kids have no heart too. That if you punch an Poly kid in the mouth, he won't want any fight. That was also true as I went 2-0 vs them as a kid on a team with absolutely no team speed. We had like 2 guys run 4.6s. lol Thats been the urban legend since at least the '70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 The culture change was a coaching change too Jason Negro led that change. He was highly-successful at Trabuco Hills winning lower division CIF titles with the leftovers that couldn't start at Mission & El Toro. He took his main guys on staff like Chad Johnson to SBJ. They brought a winning culture...and as equally important, the desire for boosters to open their wallets and modernize their facilities. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: Thats been the urban legend since at least the '70s. And mostly true. Well, in our case. We had no speed and talent. We finished last in league both years we beat Poly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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