DBP66 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bormio said: Many countries in Europe are now experiencing cases at a rate equal to 200,000-300,000 cases a day in the US, and death rates equal to 3,000-4,000 a day in the US. And any decrease in the last week or so is from renewed lockdowns, which are crippling their economies and societies and have only short-term benefit. covid>economy...we may need to "cripple" the economy to save lives...lives>economy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Here's Bormio claiming that there's no evidence that banning large gatherings stops the spread of an infectious disease. On 2/29/2020 at 8:52 PM, Bormio said: Like NBA games, March Madness, NHL games - because someone thinks - without evidence - this might be beneficial? When you can get it going to the grocery store? Here he is claiming that quarantines are futile to stopping the spread of an infectious disease. On 2/29/2020 at 9:29 PM, Bormio said: People without symptoms can transmit it. The incubation is long. It appears to be readily transmissible. Cases found today could already have spread to hundreds. Who are spreading it now. Quarantine of contacts seems reasonable, but is almost certainly futile. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 The sum total of the advice of experts has been “wear a mask” (the benefit of which is not well-proven and to be honest most people are wearing them inside public places) and to recommend lockdowns. What the hell are we paying them for? One is of limited effectiveness and the other is harmful and unsustainable. But now we have a President to cheerlead for both. Yippee! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bormio Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Here's Bormio claiming that there's no evidence that banning large gatherings stops the spread of an infectious disease. Here he is claiming that quarantines are futile to stopping the spread of an infectious disease. 🤡 We have banned large gatherings, we have worn masks, we have locked down and still the virus has spread. “But only if we had done it more, longer or better”. Horseshit. Test and trace has been futile in every Western country. Sure, lock everyone up for 18 months and you have less cases and deaths from COVID. So what, is not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 Just now, Bormio said: We have banned large gatherings, we have worn masks, we have locked down SO... 'Doctor' You apparently have NO issue spreading bullshit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, DBP66 said: there is no debate Blueballs...masks work....but I'm sure you don't wear one...you're too smart for that!!....🤡 Yes. Unlike you and your dumbass ilk, I am too smart for that. Same goes for the other 10s of thousands of Americans around the Knoxville area that don’t buy into the BS. Covid is dead here. Old (fake) news. Only on a plane (not airport) though. That’s the only place that I am truly at their mercy. 💩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Bormio said: We have banned large gatherings, we have worn masks, we have locked down and still the virus has spread. The most significant decline in cases and deaths occurred during the lockdown and when large gatherings were banned. But you whined about the economy and your freedom being infringed. You can claim not to like them but you can't claim that they didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: Horseshit. Test and trace has been futile in every Western country. Again, factually incorrect. People don't have the stomach for it but it definitely works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bormio said: Sure, lock everyone up for 18 months and you have less cases and deaths from COVID. So what, is not going to happen. You claimed that quarantines don't work. But of course they do so you change course. It's not going to happen because there's a significant number of people in this country just like you who don't want to do it. At least that would be honest. But instead you lie your ass off saying that it doesn't work. You're a disgrace to whatever medical center allows you to stick syringes up people's asses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: SO... 'Doctor' You apparently have NO issue spreading bullshit There's plenty more where that came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 More than 130 Secret Service officers reportedly under coronavirus quarantine More than 130 Secret Service officers are quarantining due to positive coronavirus tests or exposure to a co-worker who has tested positive, the Washington Post reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 15 hours ago, rockinl said: So....just exactly what is Bidens plan to stop the pandemic??? I keep hearing him blaming, but I havent heard a plan. He doesnt have one, just like no one else does, including Trump. Typical political bullshit. 47 years in D.C and still...nothing. People still believe politicians. Idiots. America is doomed. Biden plan here: https://joebiden.com/covid19/ Perhaps the most important task facing President Elect Biden early in his term will be the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine rollout. This wouldn't be easy under any President. But imagine doing it under a President who doesn't believe in science, downplays the virus, and has a demonstrated inability to speak truthfully about the virus or manage a supply line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Bormio said: Pretty thin gruel for advocating for mandated mask wearing. A recent study that advocated for mask mandates as its conclusion was withdrawn when additional data negated the conclusion. Again, no link. No matter, the CDC doesn't agree with your assertion. Just this week the CDC released a scientific brief stating that masks not only protect others, they protect the wearer too. CDC Scientific Brief: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html I'm sure nobody saw it coming that research was showing cloth masks protect the wearer too.... On 10/5/2020 at 11:20 AM, 15yds4gibberish said: Disagree. There is promising emerging research indicating masks not only protect the wearer and others, but also when transmission does occur through a mask the dose of virus is reduced leading to more asymptomatic and mild infection manifestations (lowering the death rate). There is more research and peer review being conducted real time, but for now here is a link to one article in The Journal of General Internal Medicine (Springer) here. Caveat: I'm not a doctor, don't claim to be one, and everything is subject to peer review (that's how science works)....BUT the communication about masks has been shitty from the beginning and this thread title is more of the same. It just ain't much of an inconvenience to wear a mask, all the indications are it's protective in many ways, and is probably the single best vehicle to opening up and staying open right now, so I choose to continue wearing one. I encourage readers of this thread to consider doing the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Blueliner said: I think it’s quite entertaining to watch the board’s dumbest and most retarded member debate a practicing physician regarding disease control. ....Bbbbbbbut CNN and a complicit bureaucrat said so (and then didn’t ...and then did again). What a 💩🤣 bgw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 6 hours ago, DBP66 said: That's why the virus is kicking our ass....we need to change gears yesterday...everyone needs to wear a mask...it's that simple...😉 In addition to a mask, you must social distance(6ft is not sufficient), sanitize frequently, change masks, avoid large gatherings etc if you want to be safe. Otherwise risk biting the dust. Good news though if you do bite the dust. You can still vote in many places. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: bgw ...and then reality sets in. 🤣 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 2 hours ago, 15yds4gibberish said: Again, no link. No matter, the CDC doesn't agree with your assertion. Just this week the CDC released a scientific brief stating that masks not only protect others, they protect the wearer too. CDC Scientific Brief: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html I'm sure nobody saw it coming that research was showing cloth masks protect the wearer too.... Is this their “final final” answer? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 53 minutes ago, zulu1128 said: Is this their “final final” answer? 🤷♂️ The CDC has been less than stellar for sure. Correcting themselves almost every couple of weeks. And the issue with the initial tests got us off to a dreadful start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 No vaccine for New York until Cuomo asks for it (say please). God I am going to miss this man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, zulu1128 said: Is this their “final final” answer? 🤷♂️ Initially the CDC recommended two groups of people needed to wear masks - Those showing symptoms and those tending to the sick. When presented with new evidence back in April that asymptomatic people transmitted COVID, the CDC mask recommendation expanded. Now there is further evidence that wearing a mask benefits the wearer as well as others and the CDC has agreed. When presented with new evidence, some people change their minds. What do you do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bormio said: The CDC has been less than stellar for sure. Correcting themselves almost every couple of weeks. And the issue with the initial tests got us off to a dreadful start. I guess the better course would be to never correct themselves and just be wrong forever like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bormio said: No vaccine for New York until Cuomo asks for it (say please). God I am going to miss this man. An overweight civilian will have no say in who gets the vaccine in April. Thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted November 13, 2020 Report Share Posted November 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, 15yds4gibberish said: When presented with new evidence, some people change their minds. What do you do? Mock an anti-Trump liberal with snarky comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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