Being sufficiently woke means celebrating the deaths on 9/11/2001

[Atticus Finch]

4 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Biden has took the open border, anything goes policy and the whole 3rd world hears it loud and clear 

If we've had a border crisis for decades, according to you, then nothing done in 8 months has caused it.

And if people are being apprehended and held in overflowing facilities then there's no open border.

Again, you're just making stuff up. It's clear to everybody that you're an uninformed boob who just spitballs on this topic and really just enjoys attacking poor, dark people.

[badrouter]

3 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

It's impressive how clueless you are and how you think posting a video of Tucker Carlson whining about something constitutes "facts."

It's pretty simple.

The same people claiming that there is a border crisis today *also* said there was a border crisis from January 20th, 2017 to January 20th, 2021.

If there was an equal and urgent border crisis then as there is now then nothing that has been done in the last 8 months has *caused* a border crisis.

Also, if we had open borders then, by definition, there would be no border crisis since people would just be streaming in as a matter of policy.

So since our border facilities are overflowing and these particular Haitians are being *apprehended* then what you and Tucker are saying is false.

And since the border situation is the same now as it was, say, a year ago or two years ago then there's nothing new here to report.

So was Tucker lying then or is he lying now? You tell me.

There’s been a border crisis of some degree for a very long time. What’s happened since the 2020 election is it has been signaled that enforcement may not be as rigorous, and that significant financial incentives will be available to all who arrive, no matter how they arrive. So, the crisis that was never properly dealt with has been exacerbated. 

[World Citizen]

8 minutes ago, badrouter said:

There’s been a border crisis of some degree for a very long time. What’s happened since the 2020 election is it has been signaled that enforcement may not be as rigorous, and that significant financial incentives will be available to all who arrive, no matter how they arrive. So, the crisis that was never properly dealt with has been exacerbated. 

Signaled by who?  What does less rigorous mean?  Any link to support this?  And if they come illegally we give them money?  Any link to support this?  

[World Citizen]

17 hours ago, badrouter said:

Because of the power of ideas. In this case, it is the idea that the country must be destroyed because of (insert favorite grievance here). And because “whataboutism” never actually does anyone any good.

You are worried more about an idea that is no where close to becoming reality from some random school board member than actual actions currently happening to destroy the democracy?  Makes no sense to me. 

Are you the least bit concerned about what Republicans have been ACTIVELY doing to destroy our democracy?  They have gone way past the idea phase and put it into action.  

I agree with you about 'whataboutism'.

[World Citizen]

12 hours ago, On2whls said:

Just curious, what are all the boxes required to be officially deemed a cult?

So if 2/3 people believe in a concept, it automatically represents progress and they are by default, right?

Look up what a cult is.  Try Google.  

[badrouter]

25 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

Signaled by who?  What does less rigorous mean?  Any link to support this?  And if they come illegally we give them money?  Any link to support this?  

Signaled by comments which were more evasive than decidedly anti-illegal immigration coupled with much concern expressed for the “inhumane” treatment of border crossers. None of it necessarily qualifies as an indictment of anyone actually in office (in the White House anyway). But, like the kid’s game “Telephone”, the message gets increasingly simplified and distorted as it gets passed down from group to group. The message sent to illiterate, impoverished folks in places like Mexico and Guatemala is that “now is the time to come.”

Yes, money is given to illegal immigrants in many places. Have to run back to work soon, but here’s one link: “Undocumented” workers receive stimulus checks as a matter of policy

[On2whls]

1 hour ago, World Citizen said:

Look up what a cult is.  Try Google.  

You can assume whatever you want but it is unnecessary when all you have to do is ask
 

Sure, I could look it up on google, but I’m trying to understand your perspective.  You did encourage me to just ask ^^^
 

 

[Nolebull813]

6 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

If we've had a border crisis for decades, according to you, then nothing done in 8 months has caused it.

And if people are being apprehended and held in overflowing facilities then there's no open border.

Again, you're just making stuff up. It's clear to everybody that you're an uninformed boob who just spitballs on this topic and really just enjoys attacking poor, dark people.

Here are your innocent migrants fleeing execution 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/haitian-migrants-custody-hijacked-multiple-155100481.html

[Atticus Finch]

3 hours ago, badrouter said:

What's been signaled that enforcement may not be as rigorous, and that significant financial incentives will be available to all who arrive, no matter how they arrive.

This is complete bullshit.

[Atticus Finch]

38 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Here are your innocent migrants fleeing execution 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/haitian-migrants-custody-hijacked-multiple-155100481.html

I'd love to get your take on what you think this means.

[badrouter]

3 hours ago, World Citizen said:

You are worried more about an idea that is no where close to becoming reality from some random school board member than actual actions currently happening to destroy the democracy?  Makes no sense to me. 

Are you the least bit concerned about what Republicans have been ACTIVELY doing to destroy our democracy?  They have gone way past the idea phase and put it into action.  

I agree with you about 'whataboutism'.

If it was one (or a couple) random school board members, you’d have a point. And perhaps you’re genuinely not aware of the fact that it is FAR MORE than that. And the number has/had been increasing exponentially. 
 

I recognize that A LOT of what the Republicans have done is horrible for many reasons. That’s why I’ve slammed them repeatedly here. It’s also why I’ve never once cast a vote for a Republican in my life.

[badrouter]

31 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

This is complete bullshit.

It’s not. What I’ll concede is that some/most/all of the signaling may be from those not immediately a part of the administration. And some/most/all of what has been signaled may be misinformation- illiterate,  impoverished people from 3rd world countries are easily misled. 
 

But, there IS very good reason to believe that anyone who successfully makes it across the boarder can expect significant financial benefit. 

[Nolebull813]

2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

I'd love to get your take on what you think this means.

Criminals gonna criminal 

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

Being woke… and all. 
 

“Thingafication of the Negro”~ MLK

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/22/opinion/petito-missing-person-cases.html

bgw

[Wildcat Will]

On 9/12/2021 at 4:56 PM, World Citizen said:

You are an incompetent liar.  He got bailed for domestic abuse charges and not murder.  NY Post?  What this has to do with terrorism is beyond me.  You guys connect unrelated things and try to pass it off as some significant gotcha moment that proves absolutely nothing.  

You will go the rest of your life being stuck in your same mindset you are in now.  Never questioning your beliefs and never having the opportunity to expand your perceptions is a truly sad thing and one that is entirely your choice.  

Call it willful ignorance as he chooses to remain this ignorant.

[Nolebull813]

I guess we need more vetting

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-afghan-evacuees-charged-crimes-021100217.html

[badrouter]

On 9/22/2021 at 10:44 AM, World Citizen said:

Signaled by who?  What does less rigorous mean?  Any link to support this?  And if they come illegally we give them money?  Any link to support this?  

More on “signaling” leading to immigration

[World Citizen]

1 hour ago, badrouter said:

More on “signaling” leading to immigration

LAMAO 😆 

[badrouter]

7 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

LAMAO 😆 

Article matches what I've been saying.

[World Citizen]

10 minutes ago, badrouter said:

Article matches what I've been saying.

No it doesn't.  A family member sending money for another family member to make the trip does not = anybody who comes in can expect significant financial benefit.  

Apparently people from first world countries are easily misled as well.  

[Troll]

5 hours ago, World Citizen said:

No it doesn't.  A family member sending money for another family member to make the trip does not = anybody who comes in can expect significant financial benefit.  

Apparently people from first world countries are easily misled as well.  

quick question...

If they are not "Economic Migrants"

(and looking for a better life and all, is still a good thing btw)

then what kind of migrants would they be ???

 

Any guesses ?

🤔

 

 

[badrouter]

2 hours ago, World Citizen said:

No it doesn't.  A family member sending money for another family member to make the trip does not = anybody who comes in can expect significant financial benefit.  

Apparently people from first world countries are easily misled as well.  

Perhaps you didn't make it to this part of the article:

"In extending protections for Haitians this spring, the Biden administration cited security concerns and social unrest in the Western Hemisphere’s poorest country.

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the temporary protections were limited to those residing in the U.S. before July 29 — but that condition was often missing in posts, leading Haitians outside the United States to believe they, too, were eligible.

Mayorkas acknowledged that this week, saying “we are very concerned that Haitians who are taking the irregular migration path are receiving misinformation that the border is open,” or that they qualify for protected status despite the expired deadline.

“I want to make sure it is known that this is not the way to come to the United States,” he said.

Online messages touting the Mexican town of Ciudad Acuña, across from Del Rio, started after President Joe Biden took office and began reversing some of the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

Ciudad Acuña has been spared the drug and gang violence seen elsewhere along the border. Some of the social media posts recommending it appear to have come from human smugglers seeking to drum up business, according to immigrant advocates.

Haitians began crossing there this year, but their numbers ballooned after a Biden administration program that briefly opened the door to some asylum seekers ended, said Nicole Phillips, of the San Diego-based Haitian Bridge Alliance, which advocates for Haitian migrants. The program allowed in a select number of people deemed by humanitarian groups to be at high risk in Mexico.

Once it ceased in August, people panicked, and the messages recommending Ciudad Acuña “went viral,” Phillips said.

“That’s why they rushed at this time to get in,” she said. “They realized they wouldn’t be able to get in legally through a port-of-entry like they were hoping.”

Del Rio is just one example of how technology that has put a smartphone in the hands of nearly every migrant is transforming migration flows, according to advocates. Migrants often monitor the news and share information on routes. The most popular platform is WhatsApp, which connects 2 billion people worldwide."

It's all the messages they are receiving. Yes, they are often misinformation and not necessarily from the Biden administration. But, immigration activists-again not necessarily Biden admin folks- are getting the message to them that now is the time to come.

[World Citizen]

17 hours ago, badrouter said:

Perhaps you didn't make it to this part of the article:

"In extending protections for Haitians this spring, the Biden administration cited security concerns and social unrest in the Western Hemisphere’s poorest country.

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the temporary protections were limited to those residing in the U.S. before July 29 — but that condition was often missing in posts, leading Haitians outside the United States to believe they, too, were eligible.

Mayorkas acknowledged that this week, saying “we are very concerned that Haitians who are taking the irregular migration path are receiving misinformation that the border is open,” or that they qualify for protected status despite the expired deadline.

“I want to make sure it is known that this is not the way to come to the United States,” he said.

Online messages touting the Mexican town of Ciudad Acuña, across from Del Rio, started after President Joe Biden took office and began reversing some of the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

Ciudad Acuña has been spared the drug and gang violence seen elsewhere along the border. Some of the social media posts recommending it appear to have come from human smugglers seeking to drum up business, according to immigrant advocates.

Haitians began crossing there this year, but their numbers ballooned after a Biden administration program that briefly opened the door to some asylum seekers ended, said Nicole Phillips, of the San Diego-based Haitian Bridge Alliance, which advocates for Haitian migrants. The program allowed in a select number of people deemed by humanitarian groups to be at high risk in Mexico.

Once it ceased in August, people panicked, and the messages recommending Ciudad Acuña “went viral,” Phillips said.

“That’s why they rushed at this time to get in,” she said. “They realized they wouldn’t be able to get in legally through a port-of-entry like they were hoping.”

Del Rio is just one example of how technology that has put a smartphone in the hands of nearly every migrant is transforming migration flows, according to advocates. Migrants often monitor the news and share information on routes. The most popular platform is WhatsApp, which connects 2 billion people worldwide."

It's all the messages they are receiving. Yes, they are often misinformation and not necessarily from the Biden administration. But, immigration activists-again not necessarily Biden admin folks- are getting the message to them that now is the time to come.

I read the article.  What I said was true.  

[badrouter]

The idea that the United States should be destroyed has significant traction: And perhaps Tik Tok agrees

[Nolebull813]

13 hours ago, badrouter said:

The idea that the United States should be destroyed has significant traction: And perhaps Tik Tok agrees

Sadly that rhetoric is the core foundation of this administration with the open borders, and their sheep on this site who obey dutifully while it all happens in real time. 
 

That’s why I say they hate this country with a passion. Left wingers here hate it. They are complicit in the destruction of America. When you vote people into power who hate America and want to destroy it, then you yourself are guilty of all of their sins