badrouter Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Kahuku and East St. Louis. I know this is infuriating to many people. Too bad. This should have (of course it will not actually) have implications on national rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, badrouter said: Kahuku and East St. Louis. I know this is infuriating to many people. Too bad. This should have (of course it will not actually) have implications on national rankings. I have a very hard time believing you when you told me that Bowman was better than Rainey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Also East St. Louis is not and has never been a world beater type of team. They are always very talented but most years would go ofer against the top 5 from the football states. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, badrouter said: Kahuku and East St. Louis. I know this is infuriating to many people. Too bad. This should have (of course it will not actually) have implications on national rankings. You have no clue because they don’t play. There is no “national rankings”. There are made up opinions of people who like HSFB, but no one can watch hundreds of teams per week and understand who’s better. Every game has their own context. (Calling the dogs off, garbage scores, refs calling fake flags) etc etc. There is too much info that you don’t have to make a sound judgment. Just box scores, and assumptions. And I’m not implying that you cant determine if SJB is better than some Vermont team. I’m saying you can’t tell if the 87th team is better than the 107th team. Unless they play 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: You have no clue because they don’t play. There is no “national rankings”. There are made up opinions of people who like HSFB, but no one can watch hundreds of teams per week and understand who’s better. Every game has their own context. (Calling the dogs off, garbage scores, refs calling fake flags) etc etc. There is too much info that you don’t have to make a sound judgment. Just box scores, and assumptions. And I’m not implying that you cant determine if SJB is better than some Vermont team. I’m saying you can’t tell if the 87th team is better than the 107th team. Unless they play I will say that I agree 100%. And if that was the consensus narrative, I’d have nothing more to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, nptb17 said: I have a very hard time believing you when you told me that Bowman was better than Rainey. It still remains to be seen, as we don’t know exactly what’s led to Bowman’s transfers, or what will happen in the future. There was ample reason to believe Bowman is better. That’s a question I think I’d be willing to defer to the STA folks on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, nptb17 said: Also East St. Louis is not and has never been a world beater type of team. They are always very talented but most years would go ofer against the top 5 from the football states. Perhaps you missed where I was going with this. ESL and Kahuku mostly had SFA beat. So, I was commenting on how I think this Lakeland team would fare vs SFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 @954gator @golfaddict1 @Atticus Finch three votes. Who’s better, Rainey or Bowman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: You have no clue because they don’t play. There is no “national rankings”. There are made up opinions of people who like HSFB, but no one can watch hundreds of teams per week and understand who’s better. Every game has their own context. (Calling the dogs off, garbage scores, refs calling fake flags) etc etc. There is too much info that you don’t have to make a sound judgment. Just box scores, and assumptions. And I’m not implying that you cant determine if SJB is better than some Vermont team. I’m saying you can’t tell if the 87th team is better than the 107th team. Unless they play They have 1 win versus a T1000 team, that's not national championship material or tiers material #SOSMatters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 minute ago, SportsMarketing said: They have 1 win versus a T1000 team, that's not national championship material or tiers material #SOSMatters That means we don’t know how good they are. The only team with a pulse they played, they barely beat. There is nothing tangible that would suggest that Lakeland could beat a top 100 team. Can they? Sure. It’s all opinion until they do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: That means we don’t know how good they are. The only team with a pulse they played, they barely beat. There is nothing tangible that would suggest that Lakeland could beat a top 100 team. Can they? Sure. It’s all opinion until they do it Exactly why it's important to #PlayTheBest #AnytimeAnywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Sidenote The tiers are the best ranking system out there #LongLiveTheTiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Oh shit GSB is back 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, SportsMarketing said: Exactly why it's important to #PlayTheBest #AnytimeAnywhere Look who came running back...lol. How you living Joe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, badrouter said: It still remains to be seen, as we don’t know exactly what’s led to Bowman’s transfers, or what will happen in the future. There was ample reason to believe Bowman is better. That’s a question I think I’d be willing to defer to the STA folks on. Rainey was a key factor on great teams and made plays. Bowman has not been good enough to get on the field at 2 schools when the running back situation was perfect for a very good player to get touches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Look who came running back...lol. How you living Joe? Better than this spitputtin board!!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, SportsMarketing said: They have 1 win versus a T1000 team, that's not national championship material or tiers material #SOSMatters I’ve made no reference to the quality of the strength of schedule to date. I’m simply speaking to the power of the team. They’re plenty more loaded than about 100 other teams that may have played more highly ranked teams (which Nolebull and I agree are ultimately fake rankings.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: That means we don’t know how good they are. The only team with a pulse they played, they barely beat. There is nothing tangible that would suggest that Lakeland could beat a top 100 team. Can they? Sure. It’s all opinion until they do it Indeed, it is all opinion, which can neither be proven nor refuted. It can also be said, and neither proven nor refuted, that Lakeland would beat Mater Dei. I can’t prove that. You can’t disprove that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 If the result of this thread is that GSB is back, I’ve failed miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: That means we don’t know how good they are. The only team with a pulse they played, they barely beat. There is nothing tangible that would suggest that Lakeland could beat a top 100 team. Can they? Sure. It’s all opinion until they do it I must also say that describing Osceola merely as “with a pulse” is an absolute dogshit characterization. Let us not forget you once had Rockledge ahead of Lakeland. How did Rockledge fair on their home field vs. Osceola? 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, badrouter said: If the result of this thread is that GSB is back, I’ve failed miserably. Guess again Sherlock, plenty of success in my return but you may have the WRONG STREET JAWJAA FARMER! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, badrouter said: I must also say that describing Osceola merely as “with a pulse” is an absolute dogshit characterization. Let us not forget you once had Rockledge ahead of Lakeland. How did Rockledge fair on their home field vs. Osceola? 🤡 At least nolebull did a ranking but of course like most people here you prefer to be a Monday night QB instead of showing what you actually know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsMarketing Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, badrouter said: Indeed, it is all opinion, which can neither be proven nor refuted. It can also be said, and neither proven nor refuted, that Lakeland would beat Mater Dei. I can’t prove that. You can’t disprove that. Perhaps but most people of common sense would take Mater Dei over Lakeland because Mater Dei has ACTUALLY taken on other nationally ranked opponents and won consistently lately while Lakeland seems content to play some FL teams who ain't even top 100 in the state and coast because they don't want to play anyone good outside of Bryant Stadium 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, SportsMarketing said: Perhaps but most people of common sense would take Mater Dei over Lakeland because Mater Dei has ACTUALLY taken on other nationally ranked opponents and won consistently lately New guy! 👏👏👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 It doesn’t make sense for any high school team to play several hours away from home…unless the coach is an egomaniac who needs his team to become noticed. Traveling far is a sucky experience and a financial loser. Games that figure to get better attendance because they are closer to both campuses make more sense. If a team plays in an area where there are big time opponents within reasonable distance, more power to them. South Florida, SoCal, it makes more sense. Generally, it’s only dumb or desperate teams traveling a long way to play games without a big paycheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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