Big Night For The Democrats..... for those still keeping score.

[RedZone]

All things considered.

Lots of comical spin this morning.....too much to post 

 

 

[RedZone]

Of course 99.7% of the people here at off-topic really had no clue anything was going on last night.

So there's that too!

[Nolebull813]

Think about that. These people are so morally bankrupt that they believe “winning” and “big nights” are when the availability to murder their offspring as a form of birth control increases. 
 

I don’t know why it needs to be said, but nobody “wins” when you terminate the life of your unborn 

[DBP66]

Democrats win in several states on abortion rights and other highlights from Tuesday's elections

NICHOLAS RICCARDI

Updated Wed, November 8, 2023 at 2:00 AM EST·5 min read

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats had plenty of good news to celebrate in Tuesday’s off-year elections and more evidence that they can win races centered on the national debate over abortion.

Abortion rights supporters won an Ohio ballot measure and the Democratic governor of beet-red Kentucky held onto his office by campaigning on reproductive rights and painting his opponent as extremist. A Democrat won an open seat on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court after campaigning on his pledge to uphold abortion rights. And Democrats took full control of the Virginia statehouse, blocking Republicans from being able to pass new abortion restrictions and delivering a defeat to Gov. Glenn Youngkin that may douse any buzz about a late entry into the GOP presidential primary.

The victories won't be enough to make Democrats feel secure heading into next year’s presidential election. The off-year elections have major implications in all of those states and provide a snapshot of American politics heading into 2024. But two big names — Joe Biden and Donald Trump — weren't on the ballot this time. How Americans view them will be a huge factor in shaping next year's race.

 

Here are some key results from Tuesday’s voting.

ABORTION REMAINS POTENT FOR DEMOCRATS

Democrats notched two early wins Tuesday night in Kentucky and Ohio, states that voted for Trump in 2020. In both states, abortion was the main campaign issue.

Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear was reelected in a state that Trump had won by 26 percentage points. Beshear had criticized the abortion views of his Republican challenger, Attorney General Daniel Cameron, in debates and television ads. One Beshear ad featured a woman who miscarried after being raped by her stepfather at age 12 expressing disbelief at Cameron's opposition to abortion in cases of rape and incest.

In Ohio, a ballot measure preserving abortion rights passed in a state that Trump won by eight percentage points in 2020. Republicans had already tried to derail the measure by calling an unusual August referendum to make it harder to pass ballot measures, an initiative that was roundly rejected by Ohio voters.

Later Tuesday, Dan McCaffery won an open seat on Pennsylvania's Supreme Court after positioning himself as a defender of abortion rights. And in Virginia, Democrats held the state Senate and flipped control of the Virginia House of Delegates from the GOP.

The outcomes suggest a transformed political landscape since a conservative majority of the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a federal right to an abortion last year. Abortion rights measures have passed in a plethora of states as some other Republican-run states have instituted new bans on the procedure.

Abortion rights may not be a potent enough issue to swing an election on its own. Several GOP governors who supported new bans cruised to reelection last year, including Ohio’s Mike DeWine, Florida’s Ron DeSantis and Texas’ Greg Abbott.

But abortion was the key issue across the country on Tuesday. And that should worry Republicans in competitive races next year.

GOOD NIGHT FOR DEMOCRATS, BUT MAYBE NOT FOR 2024

It was a good night for Democrats following a series of wins in special elections and comes after a stronger performance in last year's midterms, which are usually crushing for the party in power in Washington.

But none of the races were an up-or-down decision on the incumbent president, Biden. And none featured Trump on the ballot or his ability to turbocharge turnout of infrequent voters.

Democrats have performed well in recent special elections and did better than expected in 2022. It increasingly seems like the party starts from a position of strength. But it's not clear that translates to its 80-year-old president, who faces widespread skepticism about his job performance and whether he is too old to serve a second term.

We'll have to wait until 2024 to see how Biden fares.

YOUNGKIN FALLS SHORT

Glenn Youngkin burst on the political scene in 2021, winning an upset victory to become the Republican governor of Virginia, a state Biden won handily the previous year. Putting a moderate, suburban dad spin on modern Republicanism, Youngkin generated buzz that he could even make a late, surprise entry into the GOP presidential primary after this month’s elections.

Instead, Youngkin said he would focus on the 2023 legislative elections and winning full Republican control over Virginia government. Things did not go the way he hoped.

Youngkin raised tens of millions of dollars for Republicans to defend their majority in Virginia’s House of Delegates and win control of the Senate, which Democrats narrowly held in 2021. Among the things the legislature could do with that majority, he said, was pass a 15-week abortion ban he favored.

Youngkin didn’t really have a path forward in the presidential primary — his window to get on the ballot has already closed in some states. Virginia has an unusual single-term limit for governors, making Youngkin’s political future even more of a question.

Whatever he does, he’ll have to explain 2023. And he'll face unified Democratic control of the statehouse for the rest of his term.

DEMOCRATS' HEARTBREAK HOTEL

It was a good night for Democrats, but it could only go so far.

The party invested heavily in an unlikely place: Mississippi, where Brandon Presley, best known as Elvis Presley’s second cousin, was challenging Republican Gov. Tate Reeves.

The party hoped that Presley’s celebrity and political skills, coupled with the change in a centuries-old provision originally designed to keep Black candidates from winning statewide races, could spell an unlikely victory. But it was not to be.

Reeves won the race. There are limited lessons to draw from a party falling short in a state its 2020 presidential candidate lost by 17 points, except one of the oldest — you can’t win ’em all.

HISTORIC FIRSTS

Political candidates broke barriers in a handful of wins Tuesday.

Former Biden White House aide Gabe Amo will become the first Black member of Congress from Rhode Island after winning the special election in that state’s first congressional district.

The son of West African immigrants, Amo emerged from a 12-candidate September primary to succeed retiring Rep. David Cicilline. On Tuesday, Amo defeated Republican Gerry Leonard, a Marine veteran, in the heavily Democratic district.

And Philadelphia will have its first female mayor after Democrat Cherelle Parker defeated Republican David Oh in the overwhelmingly Democratic city.

[Crusader12-0]

48 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Think about that. These people are so morally bankrupt that they believe “winning” and “big nights” are when the availability to murder their offspring as a form of birth control increases. 
 

I don’t know why it needs to be said, but nobody “wins” when you terminate the life of your unborn 

Abortion is a religion in this country. It’s sickening. 

[concha]

 

Safe, legal and rare?

 

[Crusader12-0]

17 minutes ago, concha said:

 

Safe, legal and rare?

 

A third of all pregnancies end in abortion. That’s not rare! Another example of a left wing slippery slope.

[RedZone]

28 minutes ago, Crusader12-0 said:

Abortion is a religion in this country. It’s sickening. 

As much as Guns and the AR-15...... even more sickening truthfully.

 

[golfaddict1]

2 hours ago, Crusader12-0 said:

Abortion is a religion in this country. It’s sickening. 

 

2 hours ago, Crusader12-0 said:

A third of all pregnancies end in abortion. That’s not rare! Another example of a left wing slippery slope.

https://x.com/acyn/status/1722078385453592676?s=46&t=Ub_4ZB--blmAW22AUOdwqQ

Speaker Johnson won’t like this!  
#nobankaccountman

[Nolebull813]

That’s crazy. Women can only get pregnant when they are ovulating which is a small window. Then some guy who probably doesn’t love her has to blow his load in her at that exact moment. It’s actually difficult for a woman to get pregnant. 
 

Abortion is primarily used by women who allow men who don’t love them blow loads in them without any protection. And they want to use it as birth control. Just discard a living being over a social inconvenience. 
 

it’s disgusting that people fight so hard for this. 

[World Citizen]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

That’s crazy. Women can only get pregnant when they are ovulating which is a small window. Then some guy who probably doesn’t love her has to blow his load in her at that exact moment. It’s actually difficult for a woman to get pregnant. 
 

Abortion is primarily used by women who allow men who don’t love them blow loads in them without any protection. And they want to use it as birth control. Just discard a living being over a social inconvenience. 
 

it’s disgusting that people fight so hard for this. 

It is disgusting how incredibly stupid you are, and it must be deliberate, or you would have the ability to learn but you don't.  

[dan in daytona]

13 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

That’s crazy. Women can only get pregnant when they are ovulating which is a small window. Then some guy who probably doesn’t love her has to blow his load in her at that exact moment. It’s actually difficult for a woman to get pregnant. 
 

Abortion is primarily used by women who allow men who don’t love them blow loads in them without any protection. And they want to use it as birth control. Just discard a living being over a social inconvenience. 
 

it’s disgusting that people fight so hard for this. 

You really are a moron ! The "Rhythm Method"  has been around for more then a century. It's about 75% effective in stopping an unwanted pregnancy if the female has a "normal" 28 day cycle "EVERY MONTH" year after year. But what's normal ?  All women are different. Many women can ovulate with a spread of up to ten days from month to month. Presently in America there are around 65,000,000 women of child bearing age. Clearly, from your previous post, we've noticed your deficiency in math. So let's just say for simplicity sake, YOUR'S, lots and lots of women would get pregnant following your Neanderthal like advise. Now throw in all manor of rapes, health dangers, and differences in cultural, social, and economic belief's and situations in women; and thousands of unwanted children would be born every year. How about Freedom loving men, like yourself, let adult females control their own bodies and their own freedom. As to your very crude reference of men "blowing loads into them" , how about you worry a little more about the easily accessible assault weapons of indiscriminate death that deranged individuals seem to still legally acquire regardless of documented metal health issues. Let's stop the "Blowing Loads" into someone's mother, father, sister, brother, friend, neighbor, ................           

[Ga96]

On 11/8/2023 at 4:37 PM, World Citizen said:

It is disgusting how incredibly stupid you are, and it must be deliberate, or you would have the ability to learn but you don't.  

The fact he has a grandkid makes it worse.

[Nolebull813]

On 11/9/2023 at 5:12 AM, dan in daytona said:

You really are a moron ! The "Rhythm Method"  has been around for more than a century. It's about 75% effective in stopping an unwanted pregnancy if the female has a "normal" 28 day cycle "EVERY MONTH" year after year. But what's normal ?  All women are different. Many women can ovulate with a spread of up to ten days from month to month. Presently in America there are around 65,000,000 women of child bearing age. Clearly, from your previous post, we've noticed your deficiency in math. So let's just say for simplicity sake, YOUR'S, lots and lots of women would get pregnant following your Neanderthal like advice. Now throw in all manor of rapes, health dangers, and differences in cultural, social, and economic belief's and situations in women; and thousands of unwanted children would be born every year. How about Freedom loving men, like yourself, let adult females control their own bodies and their own freedom. As to your very crude reference of men "blowing loads into them" , how about you worry a little more about the easily accessible assault weapons of indiscriminate death that deranged individuals seem to still legally acquire regardless of documented metal health issues. Let's stop the "Blowing Loads" into someone's mother, father, sister, brother, friend, neighbor, ................           

watch this. This guy breaks it down for you to the point I would love to hear what he says you disagree with. 
 

 

[I AM IRONMAN]

2 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

watch this. This guy breaks it down for you to the point I would love to hear what he says you disagree with. 
 

 

Spot on…makes total sense…which will undoubtedly soar over some folks heads.

[Nolebull813]

23 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said:

Spot on…makes total sense…which will undoubtedly soar over some folks heads.

If you don’t submit to a far left ideology then you are not a good person in their twisted minds. 
 

They want speech they disagree with shut down, abortion on demand, guns taken away, open borders to increase dem voter registration regardless of the strain it puts on hospitals, schools and law enforcement, police defunded, God and Christianity minimized, men in drag grinding children, teachers grooming young students with sexual subjects, mutilating minors with gender surgery, and billions funneled to a foreign country while people here suffer. 
 

And if you don’t agree with all that, YOU are the problem!!!

[dan in daytona]

5 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

watch this. This guy breaks it down for you to the point I would love to hear what he says you disagree with. 
 

 

Nlolebull, you're too god damn ignorant to comprehend what is said to you. And this isn't an isolated example... Simply put I'm for Women's choice. But I don't personally "like" late term terminations. And for point two, why on earth did that easily verifiable mad man still have "freedom" to possess "HIS" military grade weapons of mass death before murdering 18 innocent victims in Maine ?  I own several pistols and have a Florida Concealed Carry License. No one's taking my guns away. Others need to have theirs "reevaluated" and if necessary, "repossessed."      

[golfaddict1]

On 11/9/2023 at 5:12 AM, dan in daytona said:

You really are a moron ! The "Rhythm Method"  has been around for more than a century. It's about 75% effective in stopping an unwanted pregnancy if…

Even higher with common sense.  
I think the forum knows by now where my wife is from.  

[Nolebull813]

1 hour ago, dan in daytona said:

Nlolebull, you're too god damn ignorant to comprehend what is said to you. And this isn't an isolated example... Simply put I'm for Women's choice. But I don't personally "like" late term terminations. And for point two, why on earth did that easily verifiable mad man still have "freedom" to possess "HIS" military grade weapons of mass death before murdering 18 innocent victims in Maine ?  I own several pistols and have a Florida Concealed Carry License. No one's taking my guns away. Others need to have theirs "reevaluated" and if necessary, "repossessed."      

The abortion issue is super complex because there seems to be a disagreement culturally where life truly begins. Because I have to hope that pro-abortion people just honestly believe in their heart that the fetus is not a living being and they aborting the cells and/or organisms before it’s formed. Because that would be grotesque if you thought it was a living human and you want to kill them anyways. 
 

So I think to get closest to the center on abortion is to come to the closest point in a pregnancy before it becomes a separate human being. I think that’s where it gets really tricky. 
 

Also if it’s truly about a “woman’s choice” then why isn’t there more fighting to legalize prostitution and drug use? Those are personal choices people can make that best fits their lifestyle. I actually think legalizing prostitution would bring the rage down among isolated single males who can’t find a partner. But that’s another conversation 

[golfaddict1]

49 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

The abortion issue is super complex because there seems to be a disagreement culturally where life truly begins. Because I have to hope that pro-abortion people just honestly believe in their heart that the fetus is not a living being and they aborting the cells and/or organisms before it’s formed. Because that would be grotesque if you thought it was a living human and you want to kill them anyways. 
 

So I think to get closest to the center on abortion is to come to the closest point in a pregnancy before it becomes a separate human being. I think that’s where it gets really tricky. 
 

Also if it’s truly about a “woman’s choice” then why isn’t there more fighting to legalize prostitution and drug use? Those are personal choices people can make that best fits their lifestyle. I actually think legalizing prostitution would bring the rage down among isolated single males who can’t find a partner. But that’s another conversation 

Yup, could be a new thread starter or add on here.  My useless opinion… 

No clue on the 411 on legal prost. beyond Vegas in the US.  
imo, it could help rid issues associated w prost. incl safety for the women or whatever who do the tricks.  Preferably taxation helps the local areas and state w budgeting, infrastructure focus etc. 

I’ve been outspoken about the absurdity of 90 plus proof on street corners in urban areas, but don’t you dare sell sweet leaf.
NJ is rec legal.   Security on site. Smooth process.  Assume tax revenue benefits the state properly.  
Not sure what the states rec legal total is currently.   Ohio is the latest state to vote rec legalization.  
 

Like Prost. Gambling also attracts riff raff, drugs, bad seeds.  Local bookies are no longer needed nor the mob and hopefully revenue from sources making bank, help subsidize gamblers anonymous or whatever they call it and similar groups if any.  

 

 

[Nolebull813]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qDPk-EgLnmc?si=lsRvtfSr2yftgc7w

 

[golfaddict1]

Comic relief 

Any place, any time… how about a free PR “tough guy” “standing up” message for his OK constituents in a venue where it’s impossible to fight.  😂 

Couldn’t handle it prior without cameras rolling?  🤔 

Any guess which party he’s from?  

https://x.com/ryanshead/status/1724530815852528091?s=46&t=Ub_4ZB--blmAW22AUOdwqQ
 

 

[golfaddict1]

Gov Murphy’s wife (FLONJ 😊) will be running for senator (Menendez seat).  Seems like it may be a tight race.  
How Menendez factors in is a bit strange as bribery charges seem pretty stout, yet he’s fighting.