RedZone Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 ....2 total flops and a flop in progress makes 3 I don't make it up, just report it. Point? The hype isn't always reality based. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, RedZone said: ....2 total flops and a flop in progress makes 3 I don't make it up, just report it. Point? The hype isn't always reality based. You know what else isn't reality based? You 🤡... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 Here's the point. It is awesome to have three Heisman winners from one college let alone one HS. The Heisman is given for a college season not professional potential. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, pied said: The Heisman is given for a college season not professional potential. I don't guess the NFL teams that draft these Heisman Trophy winners in the first round have received that memo just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, RedZone said: ....2 total flops and a flop in progress makes 3 I don't make it up, just report it. Point? The hype isn't always reality based. The award isn’t based on NFL resume. If it was, there’d be quite a list of flops. Ron Dayne comes to mind for me as a Giants fan. Lot of QB and RB busts at the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: The award isn’t based on NFL resume How can the award be based on a NFL resume when they're not in the NFL yet? The Heisman Trophy WINNER is never the very last selection in the NFL draft. The BEST player in college football never wins the Heisman Trophy most years...... nobody really knows who that player is until 3 or 4 years down the line. Then they pull up some old highlights when that player was in college and say wow, he was great. Who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, RedZone said: How can the award be based on a NFL resume when they're not in the NFL yet? The Heisman Trophy WINNER is never the very last selection in the NFL draft. The BEST player in college football never wins the Heisman Trophy most years...... nobody really knows who that player is until 3 or 4 years down the line. Then they pull up some old highlights when that player was in college and say wow, he was great. Who knew? Charlie Ward wanted bank as a first round QB pick, but that wasn’t happening. Had a nice NBA career, all things considered. Made right choice. Tim Tebow and Flutie also come to mind. For sure, not NFL resume 💪. I watched Flutie play for the Generals w Herschel. Would hope NFL GM’s know this by now. Your pov was completely on next level performance. My pov was based on CFB performance only as it should be (Heisman). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 You know what else ain't based in reality? Calling Bryce a bust when he's only in his 1st season... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckburghsfinest1987 Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 different sports, apples and oranges comparison, but JT Daniels, i like to compare him to former MD Boys Basketball star Taylor King, in which their athletic careers came to a crash, collapsed in college, never made it to the Pro's. they were superstars on a national level, highly recruited in terms of D-1 college offers, elite numbers and stats in HS, but collapsed, crashed at the college level. But yes, even i would agree, its too early to call Bryce Young a bust yet, NFL career is barely starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 38 minutes ago, Duckburghsfinest1987 said: But yes, even i would agree, its too early to call Bryce Young a bust yet, NFL career is barely starting. Not worried about Bryce. He has had a bad year, not a bad career. He’s working with the #25 (of 32) ranked offensive lines per pro football network. Last updated December 5th. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-offensive-lines-nfl-rankings/ 33 year old Adam Thielen is his WR1. His head coach was fired mid-season. Eli Manning threw 6 td’s, 9 interceptions, with a passer rating of 55 while riding the bench most of his rookie year. I wonder how many redzone threads were started about him being a bust. Bryce has plenty to work on and clean up. Being called a “flop” in the making is hilarious and unserious. Mater Dei high school has 3 heisman trophy winners! More than any other in the country! Always a great day to be a Monarch! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 hours ago, RedZone said: ....2 total flops and a flop in progress makes 3 I don't make it up, just report it. Point? The hype isn't always reality based. You mean like Jamarcus Russell? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 3 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: … Mater Dei high school has 3 heisman trophy winners! More than any other in the country! Always a great day to be a Monarch! And that’s the story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 hours ago, RedZone said: I don't guess the NFL teams that draft these Heisman Trophy winners in the first round have received that memo just yet. Is Jayden Daniel’s going to be the first player or even first QB taken? Nope Does he deserve the Heisman Trophy this season as the seasons’ most outstanding player? Yep What’s the point of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD87 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 @RedZone Why the constant vitriol (look it up) when it comes to MD? Never SJB or STA or SFA or IMG. Always MD. MD’s never even been to Louisiana. Is it bc MD wins Natties? Even if the above teams didn’t exist, Louisiana teams wouldn’t come close to sniffing a Natty, so that shouldn’t be the issue. So what the hell? Or do you just love pissing ppl off? If so, you’re a sick, pitiful person. Answer the question. And get help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 minute ago, MD87 said: @RedZone Why the constant vitriol (look it up) when it comes to MD? Never SJB or STA or SFA or IMG. Always MD. MD’s never even been to Louisiana. Is it bc MD wins Natties? Even if the above teams didn’t exist, Louisiana teams wouldn’t come close to sniffing a Natty, so that shouldn’t be the issue. So what the hell? Or do you just love pissing ppl off? If so, you’re a sick, pitiful person. Answer the question. And get help. Pretty sure the Mater dei pool boy screwed the wife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 When you continually come after mine year after year, I have to go after yours. This is mob football talk. Bryce Young "was" good, just overrated. The other two Mater Dei flops just got caught in the crossfire. Ask @steeler01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: When you continually come after mine year after year, I have to go after yours. This is mob football talk. Bryce Young "was" good, just overrated. The other two Mater Dei flops just got caught in the crossfire. Ask @steeler01 And if @steeler01 doesn't shut up about Joe Burrow it's only going to get much much worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, pied said: Is Jayden Daniel’s going to be the first player or even first QB taken? Nope He's most likely going to be a Top 5 pick and that team will build their franchise around him. That's a 2 to 4 year investment. Like the Carolina Panthers are currently doing with Bryce Young. If Jayden Daniels kills it @steeler01 will slowly start ripping and bashing him too because he's from LSU. Loaded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 6 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: Eli Manning Eli Manning was 6-5 220 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: Eli Manning was 6-5 220 lbs. ....7 inches taller than Bryce Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, RedZone said: When you continually come after mine year after year, I have to go after yours. This is mob football talk. Bryce Young "was" good, just overrated. The other two Mater Dei flops just got caught in the crossfire. Ask @steeler01 Lol You're hurt over Joe Burrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, RedZone said: And if @steeler01 doesn't shut up about Joe Burrow it's only going to get much much worse! Oh no, you're going to talk about Bryce Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 12, 2023 Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, RedZone said: If Jayden Daniels kills it @steeler01 will slowly start ripping and bashing him too because he's from LSU. Loaded! Jayden Daniels is from the IE. He grew up attending the Corey Benjamin basketball camps at Fontana and ended up going to Cajon HS in San Bernardino. He's not from Louisiana and I wish him the best. It don't matter if he does great or sucks in the NFL it won't change my life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 7 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: Mater Dei high school has 3 heisman trophy winners! More than any other in the country! Always a great day to be a Monarch! Newman High School (NOLA) has 0 Heisman Trophy winners. Newman does have 3 players who have combined to win 5 Super Bowls, which is probably the most in the nation. Peyton Manning-2 Eli Manning-2 Odell Beckham Jr-1 I guess it's a great day to be a Newman fan too. Odell Beckham Jr still has some juice in the tank and might win another one this year. Had a good game with the Ravens this past Sunday. It's all perspective, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, steeler01 said: He's not from Louisiana and I wish him the best. It don't matter if he does great or sucks in the NFL it won't change my life. Blah, blah, blah... Joe Burrow is from Ohio and that changed your life. You've been on his ass for 4 years now and fail badly every year. That's a lot of your life wasted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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