TigerHat Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 Katy (TX) has been a very strong team for more than 20 years - they have played in 13 Texas state championship games in that period - winning 7 of them, and 3 of their undefeated teams have been called a mythical National Championship team by some rating system. This year's team is once again a very strong team - the CalPreps computer says #43 out of the 14,000+ high school teams in the country. The truth is that computer has had them consistently under rated for years; for example it projected Katy would win its most recent game 46 - 10, but they actually won the game 66-13, and that was with Katy kicking a field goal on a first and goal to keep from running up the score. So here is the question: I don't want to know if you think your team is good enough to beat Katy, I want to know if you think your team is so good that they would have to pull the starters late in the 3rd quarter to keep from running the score up on Katy - with the confidence that your backups could play the Katy starters close enough to not surrender the lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 Who? What? Idk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 Perry? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 Folsom...by 17. 😏 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champa Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 Has Katy gotten better since the Atascocita and North Shore games? That's all I've seen of them this year, as I figured most of their other games would be blowouts. If so, they may have a chance to make NS sweat a little if they meet again. Glass needs to hang on to the ball better. He fumbled, I think, 3 times against Atascocita. and no, my team (Silsbee) ain't good enough to beat Katy lol. It'd be over after the first quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 6, 2018 Report Share Posted October 6, 2018 I would like to see Katy host a national powerhouse, rather than give that same money to some Mexican team to beat by 70 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 There's at least 4 BNU teams that are equal to or better than Katy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrepGridiron Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I really don’t think anyone would be able to pull starters out in Q3 other than the elite of elite. Maybe (and this is a big maybe) the top 2-3 teams in the country could do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, PrepGridiron said: I really don’t think anyone would be able to pull starters out in Q3 other than the elite of elite. Maybe (and this is a big maybe) the top 2-3 teams in the country could do it. I thought the same thing. If anyone could pull their starters in the third against them, unless there was some extremely crazy circumstances, they aren't top 50 and probably not top 100 in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Lost me at “CalPreps”. Carry on. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloTex Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Katy will continue to get better as the season goes on. They lost quite a bit, and were young coming into the season. You better catch Katy early on in the season if you are gonna pull the starters out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I’m not sure why this question was even asked b/c north shore pretty much did what he’s asking. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I’m not sure why this question was even asked b/c north shore pretty much did what he’s asking. Maybe he a NS fan and being passive aggressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasvic Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Hope hes trolling, katy aint even the top team in houston, even less texas lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerHat Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I'm a Katy fan, I've had season tickets on the 50 yard line for 15 years. No two Katy teams are the same, but this is a solid, legit, Katy team. Are they National Championship caliber? No. But this is certainly not the worst Katy team I've seen. No I'm not trolling. The reason for this question was: 1. Yes only the top few teams in the country could beat Katy like that. 2. North Shore did do that. I have been watching (or playing) high school football for 60 years, and I can spot a national championship level team when I see one. This post was my way of pointing out that North Shore is at that level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 13 hours ago, TigerHat said: Katy (TX) has been a very strong team for more than 20 years - they have played in 13 Texas state championship games in that period - winning 7 of them, and 3 of their undefeated teams have been called a mythical National Championship team by some rating system. This year's team is once again a very strong team - the CalPreps computer says #43 out of the 14,000+ high school teams in the country. The truth is that computer has had them consistently under rated for years; for example it projected Katy would win its most recent game 46 - 10, but they actually won the game 66-13, and that was with Katy kicking a field goal on a first and goal to keep from running up the score. So here is the question: I don't want to know if you think your team is good enough to beat Katy, I want to know if you think your team is so good that they would have to pull the starters late in the 3rd quarter to keep from running the score up on Katy - with the confidence that your backups could play the Katy starters close enough to not surrender the lead? Close the gates of mercy! Just kidding. It would depend on my defense. If Katy couldn't run the ball effectively, and your receivers weren't getting off the bump and were unable to exploit the zone, and/or man coverage, I wouldn't embarass 14-17 year old boys. Even if I didn't like your coach. Because if the aforementioned is in effect, that means my squad is dominating the line of scrimmage. Start work on developing quality depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 I know a lot of us still think Katy has a shot at the 2018 MNC. Actually....the only Katy I know well enough to remember...was a fun date....a long. long time ago....well before Ms. Violet. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloTex Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 This Katy team is a long way from being a “‘mythical” national champion. Even in the furtherest stretches of make believe national champions. With their coaching, they will get much better though, and be a threat come December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 North Shore is getting love in the polls. They are currently top 15 in CP. What were the circumstances that led to NS pulling starters in the third? If Katy is actually top 50, they probably shouldn't be in such a situation that a team can feel comfortable pulling their starters at any point really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 17 hours ago, TigerHat said: Katy (TX) has been a very strong team for more than 20 years - they have played in 13 Texas state championship games in that period - winning 7 of them, and 3 of their undefeated teams have been called a mythical National Championship team by some rating system. This year's team is once again a very strong team - the CalPreps computer says #43 out of the 14,000+ high school teams in the country. The truth is that computer has had them consistently under rated for years; for example it projected Katy would win its most recent game 46 - 10, but they actually won the game 66-13, and that was with Katy kicking a field goal on a first and goal to keep from running up the score. So here is the question: I don't want to know if you think your team is good enough to beat Katy, I want to know if you think your team is so good that they would have to pull the starters late in the 3rd quarter to keep from running the score up on Katy - with the confidence that your backups could play the Katy starters close enough to not surrender the lead? The algorithm neither had them over rated nor underrated. It had them rated in accordance with the equations used. The reason KT may have seemed undervalued is because who you play is so important to an objective model like Cal. With the TX long playoff, if you win out, you are virtually assured of a top 5 season ending.... even if you suck. Take Cal for what it is not what you want it to be. question. How many MNC in USAToday does Katy have? Just wondering as that is the one I look to. The others I just use as interesting. I always liked KT. I picked them MNC a few years back on my own season ending ranking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: North Shore is getting love in the polls. They are currently top 15 in CP. What were the circumstances that led to NS pulling starters in the third? If Katy is actually top 50, they probably shouldn't be in such a situation that a team can feel comfortable pulling their starters at any point really. You would have thunk that Texas pulled its starters in the 3rd Qtr yesterday against Oklahoma. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: North Shore is getting love in the polls. They are currently top 15 in CP. What were the circumstances that led to NS pulling starters in the third? If Katy is actually top 50, they probably shouldn't be in such a situation that a team can feel comfortable pulling their starters at any point really. Depends how good the teams they face is. A 15 vs a top 50... yeah, I agree with you. A top 5 vs a top 50 may well need to pull their starters. (like MD/BC last year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Rufus69 said: You would have thunk that Texas pulled its starters in the 3rd Qtr yesterday against Oklahoma. Rufus>> Why the hell were you watching that when there were ACC games on all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, noonereal said: Depends how good the teams they face is. A 15 vs a top 50... yeah, I agree with you. A top 5 vs a top 50 may well need to pull their starters. (like MD/BC last year) True. I think this is the point the OP is angling at. North Shore should be top 5. At least that's how I'm reading the thread. This is why I'm asking for circumstances that led up to starters being pulled. Was Katy missing players? Are they just extremely young but talented and still have great upside? Etc. You know, since Texas keeps their games behind the curtain where we can't watch and make these connections on our own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, noonereal said: Why the hell were you watching that when there were ACC games on all day! Well...for full disclosure....the Dawgs didn't come on till 7:30pm...and a friend of mine showed up with a bottle of Casa de Dragones...and he just happens to be a Texas alum...and he was willing to share his bottle if I shared my Big Screen...and his wife and Ms. Violet left us unattended shortly after lunch...and well....I became a Texas fan pretty quick....(Smile). Rufus>> 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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