Pops Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Who's Oaks? After two scores does it really matter? I listed the top 10 to illustrate CP’s take (that I agreed with) on projected margins @On2whls seemed to be at least a tad offended that i suggested I’d be excited more about a CC-Folsom game (which imho is really the ONLY socal team that projects to a right contest — 2 teams project to win easily and folsom projects to beat everyone else with comparable ease) check out top prospects in CA at 24/7 sports — 3 schools jump out at you, your banner carriers and the Devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, Pops said: I listed the top 10 to illustrate CP’s take (that I agreed with) on projected margins @On2whls seemed to be at least a tad offended that i suggested I’d be excited more about a CC-Folsom game (which imho is really the ONLY socal team that projects to a right contest — 2 teams project to win easily and folsom projects to beat everyone else with comparable ease) check out top prospects in CA at 24/7 sports — 3 schools jump out at you, your banner carriers and the Devil Not following the argurment, but I agree that the devil would be a good match for the top publics in So Cal. Cen10, MV, Villa Park, and Narbonne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Pops said: Folsom, meet MIssion Viejo Mission Viejo, meet Folsom would love to see you two dance I enjoyed Folsom and Cathedral Catholic last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: I agree that the devil would be a good match for the top publics in So Cal. Cen10, MV, Villa Park, and Narbonne. I definitely did NOT say that 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Bestcoast said: I enjoyed Folsom and Cathedral Catholic last year You say this only because the SS chose to not send their 2nd (or 3rd) best team to playoffs as they were already enabled to by CIF rules for the last 5 years or so and, after being very critical of NCS, CCS, and SDS for doing so, SS has decided to join em going forward, Folsom (or whoever from Norcal), won’t be in an unenviable no-win situation for the 2nd highest title in state you were able to generate your giddiness by close losses but never took down the Devil in 4 tries No one in socal is as thrilled as Norcal that you guys are now out of excuses with nowhere to hide 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 Nice thread.... BGW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Pops said: You say this only because the SS chose to not send their 2nd (or 3rd) best team to playoffs as they were already enabled to by CIF rules for the last 5 years or so and, after being very critical of NCS, CCS, and SDS for doing so, SS has decided to join em going forward, Folsom (or whoever from Norcal), won’t be in an unenviable no-win situation for the 2nd highest title in state you were able to generate your giddiness by close losses but never took down the Devil in 4 tries No one in socal is as thrilled as Norcal that you guys are now out of excuses with nowhere to hide I ageee with Pops. I’d rather risk a journey to the Excuse Thread in order for a chance to see the devil get butt drilled in the SBG. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Pops said: You say this only because the SS chose to not send their 2nd (or 3rd) best team to playoffs as they were already enabled to by CIF rules for the last 5 years or so and, after being very critical of NCS, CCS, and SDS for doing so, SS has decided to join em going forward, Folsom (or whoever from Norcal), won’t be in an unenviable no-win situation for the 2nd highest title in state you were able to generate your giddiness by close losses but never took down the Devil in 4 tries No one in socal is as thrilled as Norcal that you guys are now out of excuses with nowhere to hide If the 8 best teams in the SS go into an 8 team “open” then the winner of the diluted SS bracket is certainly not going to be the second or third best team from So Ca. But, you’ll certainly claim that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Pops said: You say this only because the SS chose to not send their 2nd (or 3rd) best team to playoffs as they were already enabled to by CIF rules for the last 5 years or so and, after being very critical of NCS, CCS, and SDS for doing so, SS has decided to join em going forward, Folsom (or whoever from Norcal), won’t be in an unenviable no-win situation for the 2nd highest title in state you were able to generate your giddiness by close losses but never took down the Devil in 4 tries No one in socal is as thrilled as Norcal that you guys are now out of excuses with nowhere to hide Lol freakin’ clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Pops said: You say this only because the SS chose to not send their 2nd (or 3rd) best team to playoffs as they were already enabled to by CIF rules for the last 5 years or so and, after being very critical of NCS, CCS, and SDS for doing so, SS has decided to join em going forward, Folsom (or whoever from Norcal), won’t be in an unenviable no-win situation for the 2nd highest title in state you were able to generate your giddiness by close losses but never took down the Devil in 4 tries No one in socal is as thrilled as Norcal that you guys are now out of excuses with nowhere to hide What are you talking about? Folsom or whoever in the future is 2nd best in NorCal will still get Socals 9th best team in 1AA SBG 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, On2whls said: If the 8 best teams in the SS go into an 8 team “open” then the winner of the diluted SS bracket is certainly not going to be the second or third best team from So Ca. But, you’ll certainly claim that. I may have misunderstood — thought as this was being initially discussed, you were going to be sending winner if consolation game (Ie would have been you) I agree just cutting bracket in half doesn’t help much, but at least you guys can’t still claim your holding back your top 16 teams 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ararar said: What are you talking about? Folsom or whoever in the future is 2nd best in NorCal will still get Socals 9th best team in 1AA SBG See above Damn!!! misunderstanding my fault not getting it right is on you guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFball Posted May 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, On2whls said: If the 8 best teams in the SS go into an 8 team “open” then the winner of the diluted SS bracket is certainly not going to be the second or third best team from So Ca. But, you’ll certainly claim that. It really won't be the 8 best in the SS rather the 8 best in SS Div 1 if that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 3 hours ago, SoCalFball said: It really won't be the 8 best in the SS rather the 8 best in SS Div 1 if that makes sense I get what you are saying but does that mean they will ignore or include the San Diego and City Section teams? You could make a case that Cathedral SD and Narbonne last year could have been competitive in the first round of the 16 team bracket. Aside from those two teams though, what other SS teams do you think would have been capable? Upland, Norco, Rancho Verde? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Pops said: See above Damn!!! misunderstanding my fault not getting it right is on you guys By saying So Cal doesn’t get it right by lumping the best teams in one bracket, you are automatically agreeing that the system is marginalized. This then invalidates you using the D1AA and D1A title games as representative of Nor Ca best playing So Ca best. Yet you’ll still crow about it when Nor Ca teams win. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted May 22, 2019 Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 On 5/21/2019 at 1:29 AM, Pops said: Wasn’t trying to offend you/ CC i think CP +/- got the MOV/ spread right for the CA top 10 last year as: 1 MD 2 SJB +7 3 DLS +12 4 Folsom +16 5. CC +19 6 Oaks +25 7 JSerra +25 8 Mission Viejo + 28 9 Cathedral Prep + 31 10 Liberty +31 Well, we all know its off on Folsom and Cathedral Prep. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalFball Posted May 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, On2whls said: I get what you are saying but does that mean they will ignore or include the San Diego and City Section teams? You could make a case that Cathedral SD and Narbonne last year could have been competitive in the first round of the 16 team bracket. Aside from those two teams though, what other SS teams do you think would have been capable? Upland, Norco, Rancho Verde? Ignore because this is a Southern Section change. Technically there sections were ahead of the curve since LA and SD have Open Divisions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 11 hours ago, On2whls said: By saying So Cal doesn’t get it right by lumping the best teams in one bracket, you are automatically agreeing that the system is marginalized. This then invalidates you using the D1AA and D1A title games as representative of Nor Ca best playing So Ca best. Yet you’ll still crow about it when Nor Ca teams win. I understand your point but I’ll root for Norcal in any system so just set that to the side not sure what you mean by marginalized? The D13 champ isn’t the 13th best team in the state either the only real relevant point for me is what we can do to get socal from crying every year about how you send shit to this particular game I say bring it or zip it — don’t care that much about formats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 11 hours ago, On2whls said: I get what you are saying but does that mean they will ignore or include the San Diego and City Section teams? You could make a case that Cathedral SD and Narbonne last year could have been competitive in the first round of the 16 team bracket. Aside from those two teams though, what other SS teams do you think would have been capable? Upland, Norco, Rancho Verde? Both those teams could have won 2 games as long as they were in right quadrant that didn’t have you guys or one if the academies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Pops said: Both those teams could have won 2 games as long as they were in right quadrant that didn’t have you guys or one if the academies Ridiculous Pops.Maybe one game but the second round they would have had no choice but to play either Centennial,SJB,Oaks Christian,MD or JSerra and they aren’t beating any of those teams 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ararar said: Ridiculous Pops.Maybe one game but the second round they would have had no choice but to play either Centennial,SJB,Oaks Christian,MD or JSerra and they aren’t beating any of those teams Ridiculous? that either team COULD (not would) beat Oaks or JSerra? i think your protest is what’s ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Pops said: Ridiculous? that either team COULD (not would) beat Oaks or JSerra? i think yournprotestnis what’s ridiculous 😂 doesn’t change that it would take either team a Herculean effort to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ararar said: 😂 doesn’t change that it would take either team a Herculean effort to win A Herculean effort for the #9 team in stare to beat either #6 or #7 team i dont think you know what that word means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Pops said: A Herculean effort for the #9 team in stare to beat either #6 or #7 team i dont think you know what that word means Are you making your own rankings now Pops? There’s no guarantees that Narbonne or Cathedral Catholic would even win a first round game in the SS D1 bracket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 23, 2019 Report Share Posted May 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ararar said: Are you making your own rankings now Pops? There’s no guarantees that Narbonne or Cathedral Catholic would even win a first round game in the SS D1 bracket Or that the sun will come up tomorrow Mo was using CP, but I doubt much different at cal-hi stop being silly, Goose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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