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4 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

I'm surely not here to fight and argue with anyone.  Too much energy.  But did you feel this way about the previous administration and if so did that make you treasonous or was it patriotism?  Serious questions sir.  And if its the latter how is that defined and by whom is it adjudged?

Even though I didn’t agree with his policies, he was still the President of the United States. And as such, he was my President and would of backed his play in a heartbeat. This has got to stop! 

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31 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

Before the 2018 elections and the Repukes controlled both houses and the White one too boot.  And if immigration was such an issue why didn't they just take money from somewhere and build the dam wall?  Since they were just so sure they could make the Taco Nation pay for it.   Now I'm no Demoncrat either.  But now blaiming those nutjobs just reek of you'll knowing the wall pep rallies were B.S. and you're actually looking for a scapegoat.  If Obama got healthcare passed without Repuking help then what's the excuse?   Obama clearly smarter than the stable genius.  

Because Our President is a stable genius like no other... 

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6 hours ago, NotBigdaddybloom said:

Even though I didn’t agree with his policies, he was still the President of the United States. And as such, he was my President and would of backed his play in a heartbeat. This has got to stop! 

I dont see where anyone here has disrespected the President.  We are challenging the Tarriffs as a bona fide way to pay for a wall that most knew Mexico wasn't paying for.  Now this is calling him a numbskull.  General Mattis resigned yet said this.  Do you have the same disdain and is this more treasonous than anything put forth by one of us in objection?

Trump to question why the United States was even allocating military resources to the Korean Peninsula at all.

We’re doing this in order to prevent World War III,” Mattis answered.

“Mattis was particularly exasperated and alarmed," following the Jan. 19 National Security Council meeting, Woodward writes, "telling close associates that the president acted like — and had the understanding of — ‘a fifth- or sixth-grader.’”

 

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36 minutes ago, NotBigdaddybloom said:

George Soros funded South American caravans vs Mexican migrant workers! Barriers work, just look at the walls surrounding your liberal elite! Are they “democrat” proof? No, but stop being covert about your hatred for this President! You guys should be ashamed of how little your lib elected officials have gotten done since being elected! None of you have a legitimate argument for anything as long as YOUR politicians are being obstructionists!

Rule #1 of drugs... 

You don't do your own product... 

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27 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said:

Rule #1 of drugs... 

You don't do your own product... 

You know not of what you speak of! Soros is on the board of directors for a world organization that consults with governments on how to handle sociopolitical upheavals. They, Soros, is knee deep in South and Central America, but somehow this is far fetched conspiracy stuff. No, it’s things that you know nothing about. For my DBA, I had to research this organization and it was enlightening. But I wouldn’t expect you guys to be versed on things that might change your paradigm!

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1 hour ago, Blueliner said:

I really like that Trump is hardball. Despite what you guys all think (want to believe), he’s no dummy.  Down the road, when our kids enter the workforce and have families, our country will be even economically stronger than it is today. Im not short-sighted. I’m willing to make that “sacrifice” for my kids and the future of this country. 

 

You’re a smart and open minded guy. Read this.  It’s a pretty good summary of what’s going on with Chinese tariffs and who is paying for them. 

https://www.cfr.org/blog/130-percent-trumps-china-tariff-revenue-now-going-angry-farmers

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8 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

@Troll help me understand how can the Repukes get 12B for farm subsidies but can't get 5B to keep out the pickers for the Farmers?

Because nobodies that damn stupid except Trump.

I'd rather give 12B to the farmers you know people that help our economy the people that do something important for Me,You and everyone else on this forum. They grow the food we eat and they need money and assistance. 

This Fucking wall is beyond ridiculous.  It's pointless. You think a wall is gonna stop illegal immigration and drug smuggling? 

Shit they must be planning to build it on land,Sea and give the country a roof too just to keep those damn pesky immigrants out... 

You know why the previous Republicans didn't do this? 

Because they're not Dumbasses... 

If a wall would've solved anything Don't you think Bush JR would've had it up already. 

Or Reagan. Or anyone else..? It would've been up. 

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3 minutes ago, NotBigdaddybloom said:

You know not of what you speak of! Soros is on the board of directors for a world organization that consults with governments on how to handle sociopolitical upheavals. They, Soros, is knee deep in South and Central America, but somehow this is far fetched conspiracy stuff. No, it’s things that you know nothing about. For my DBA, I had to research this organization and it was enlightening. But I wouldn’t expect you guys to versed on things that might change your paradigm!

You're trolling you have to be... 

If you're not then your tinfoil hat is ingrained in your Brain. 

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44 minutes ago, DevilDog said:

Why give the Farmers 12 billion subsidy since they are getting screwed anyway and pay for the wall with it?  Since the right wing guys don't care about $5.00 avocados.  Insist he take it back and build the wall.  Where did he get 12b for them but can't get 5B for the wall?

Pay attention and learn the money merry-go-round...

Of course the union head of the farmers is going to take that position....he's in negotiations, remember?

I did notice that you gave no credit whatsoever, for making sure biggest impacted players are brought to the table...

Nobody will get compensated 'fairly' in anyone's mind....

and the money will be drawn...

Everyone MUST play to their constituents tho...

Time to put on a good show...

 

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1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

Even though cartels use legal checkpoints, boat and air passageways to smuggle drugs. I haven’t checked the stats but I’d bet those are the most used methods. 

I’m certain that they do. Those dudes are up to speed on the latest and greatest. But rendering the patrol division of the USCBP is an effective and easy way to make passage across the border without going through checkpoints...and to me an obvious, easy and cheap way (relatively speaking) to significantly curtail easy passage is to build a wall...and use technology. Use it all! Make the drug/human traffickers find another way or take their chances through checkpoints. 

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1 hour ago, DevilDog said:

And the grownup conversation was going so well.  Next Obama is a socialist hell bent on destroying America and all liberals have George Soros pictures in their wallets like the North Koreans wearing Kim IL Sung lapels.  Crazy stuff they come up with.  Trump is a Birther so I understand his followers are locked in. 

You mean they don’t? Just kidding, bro😉

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1 hour ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said:

You have gotta be fucking with me... 

Like the US border is the only way drugs get smuggled in... 

Well if drugs are being smuggled in, they have to cross the US Border.... So ya, if drugs are being smuggled in, they have to cross the border.....

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1 hour ago, NotBigdaddybloom said:

Even though I didn’t agree with his policies, he was still the President of the United States. And as such, he was my President and would of backed his play in a heartbeat. This has got to stop! 

This^^^^^

Even though I didn’t like most of his policies, I didn’t and wouldn’t condone the pubs doing what the dems are doing now. They are embarrassing us and dividing our country.

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1 minute ago, NorCalRuss said:

$15 for a inner tube is good when all you have to do is stand their like a tweaked out zombie and fuck up an order at McDonalds and make $15 hr. 

Hot damn what McDonald's pays that much? 

Let me know so I can apply... Shit I'll flip you the best damn burger ever if you pay me 15$ an hour... 

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1 hour ago, DevilDog said:

I’ve been told for last 3 years we wouldn’t be able to afford vegetables anymore...

Cauliflower was .96 a head, lettuce .67 a head, Avocados were 3-$5, Jalapeños were 2 lbs for $1, radishes were 3 bundles for $1, cilantro and green onions were all 3 bundles for $1. Cucumbers were 4 for $1 yesterday. 

I think we will be ok. 

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4 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said:

DemoRats would rather US get fucked in the ass by all other countries and not get equal trade. Pretty simple... 

It certainly appears that way. I used to be skeptical, but I am now convinced that they really want a redistribution of our country’s wealth. I love my fellow man as much as the next guy, but come on! No other country does what we do for other countries. We don’t need to feel guilty. I guess Trump is hated for not continuing the Obama Community Organizer Apology Tour.  

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13 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said:

Hot damn what McDonald's pays that much? 

Let me know so I can apply... Shit I'll flip you the best damn burger ever if you pay me 15$ an hour... 

California law minimum wage will be $15 hr by 2022. Some city’s already doing it. 

IN and out burger starts of more than that out here. 

Shit managers there make over $160K with no college. 

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51 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

You’re a smart and open minded guy. Read this.  It’s a pretty good summary of what’s going on with Chinese tariffs and who is paying for them. 

https://www.cfr.org/blog/130-percent-trumps-china-tariff-revenue-now-going-angry-farmers

Lol! Not sure how smart I am, but I do try to stay as open-minded as possible. But thank you. You’re a good poster as well.

Solid and true summary. But we already know that this will be the case in the short term. As you said already, let’s wait and see. Farmers are a HUGE part of Trump’s base. I’m certain that he thinks that that he can get it done and not commit political suicide. What’s interesting is that at the end of the day, he’s trying to do what he feels needs to be done for our country’s current and future state. He’s kinda playing with house money. If it doesn’t work, he’ll be replaced and it will go “back to normal”. I trust him ‘til it’s time not to. I believe he’s anticipating this to happen exactly as it is. 

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