Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, pied said: Another DMN article. How long did James sit out after JQJ left? Duncanville has added a high-profile transfer at its biggest position of need — quarterback. Three-star recruit Grayson James said in a direct message on Twitter that he is now attending Duncanville. James (6-1, 200) is rated the 33rd-best pro-style quarterback in the nation in the Class of 2021 by 247Sports, and he threw for 4,121 yards and 44 touchdowns last year while completing 62% of his passes to lead Plano John Paul II to a state runner-up finish in TAPPS Division I. Duncanville lost All-American quarterback Ja’Quinden Jackson to graduation after a 15-1 season, and the four-star recruit signed with Texas after leading Duncanville to back-to-back state runner-up finishes in Class 6A Division I. Chris Parson started for Duncanville as a freshman in last year’s 31-17 loss to Galena Park North Shore in the state title game after Jackson suffered a torn ACL in the state semifinals, but Parson transferred to Red Oak in the offseason. Yes, he’s one of the few state level transfers across the state. No different than what we have this year. (4-5) how about you list all the impact star level transfers that year across the state. I’ll wait… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 August 2021 (did he sit out and did he start?) Four-Star OL T.J Shanahan Transfers to Austin Westlake High School Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, pied said: Why do I keep seeing Duncanville. Is a 3* significant? Seemed to help Duncanville. Medlock transferred to Duncanville from Odessa Permian before last season. He ran for 1,114 yards and 22 touchdowns as Duncanville finished 10-2 and reached the Class 6A Division I state semifinals. Yep 1 of a few across the state, still waiting on the plethora of transfers across the state. Duncanville is 1 school. give me all the star studded transfers from last season pied. Let’s go… who else transferred besides James through the state?. There are well over a 1k schools. Uncover all the out of control transfers here in Texas of top end talent. I’ll wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 4* DE Ethan Burke played at Westlake for how long? When did he get there? Insignificant I’m guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Yep 1 of a few across the state, still waiting on the plethora of transfers across the state. Duncanville is 1 school. give me all the star studded transfers from last season pied. Let’s go… Two starters for Westlake last season, so ~10% of their starters? Likely an insignificant amount, right? There’s ~500-600 schools in 5A/6A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, pied said: Two starters for Westlake last season, so ~10% of their starters? Likely an insignificant amount, right? There’s ~500-600 schools in 5A/6A. Who are the two starters that transferred to westlake last year? (Besides shanahan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, pied said: August 2021 (did he sit out and did he start?) Four-Star OL T.J Shanahan Transfers to Austin Westlake High School Lol he moved from Florida pied. Look all you’re doing is highlighting the few kids we are already aware of. You’re game is lame. either give me the plethora of transfers across the state or get lost Post them all so we can see complete transfer list. Hell I’ll even help you out if you need it In a year we get about 7 high end kids transfer/move ins . That’s insignificant. This year we have about 3, we have the summer left. so we had shanahan, hicks, burton in 2021, who else? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Who are the two starters that transferred to westlake last year? (Besides shanahan) Ethan Burke, from Maryland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, pied said: Ethan Burke, from Maryland. Ethan Burke (#90) was on the team in 2020 https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/austin/westlake-chaparrals/football/20-21/roster/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Lol he moved from Florida pied. Look all you’re doing is highlighting the few kids we are already aware of. You’re game is lame. either give me the plethora of transfers across the state or get lost Post them all so we can see complete transfer list. Hell I’ll even help you out if you need it In a year we get about 7 high end kids transfer/move ins . That’s insignificant. This year we have about 3, we have the summer left. so we had shanahan, hicks, burton in 2021, who else? You wanted names, I gave you names, you wanted high ranking guys I gave you high ranking guys. There’s ALWAYS a reason it’s not “significant “ for you, no matter the number. Fair enough, your standards. If you discount everything, you make a pretty good argument. Now it’s out of state. A question for you, do you think the same thing about out of state transfers to IMG or St. Frances? I don’t know, but believe you’ll find a difference to NO ONE’S surprise. I know you discount it, but it is interesting to me and maybe a bunch of others that the coaches surveyed in Dallas think it’s a problem, but you don’t think there’s anything to discuss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, pied said: 4* DE Ethan Burke played at Westlake for how long? When did he get there? Insignificant I’m guessing. Westlake started 4* kids from California and Florida this year. However, they are insignificant and it was a complete fluke they moved in to play for the states top program. Also, Kaiden salter being recruited by DFW schools and playing for 3 different high schools total? How could this be? Seriously, I’m confused. Also, kids certainly would never use a fake address or move in to a specific town to play for a certain school. Move ins are what they’re called because it sounds better than transfer. That’s ok though. Kid figures out a way to get into or moves to Cen10/ Mission/ Poly/ Los Al etc it’s morally wrong/building an all star team and is subject to crucification on the message board. If that happens at North shore, Westlake, Carroll etc it is 100% right. I talked to a Carroll dad at the caroll/highland park game the day before the MD game in Texas. He gave the run down on how they love transfer starters in southlake during the new dodge era. Tj McDaniel, Brady Boyd, cinque Williams etc. All those players are insignificant of course, just happened to be division 1 players that showed up at a great program after playing for other inferior schools for their first 2-3 years of high school. God bless those rich parents that bought homes in southlake so those D1 ball players could suit up for the dragons for a year or 2! ($1.3 MM median home price) Nothing to see there. California cheats, Texas is as pure as can be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, HurricaneNick said: Westlake started 4* kids from California and Florida this year. However, they are insignificant and it was a complete fluke they moved in to play for the states top program. Also, Kaiden salter being recruited by DFW schools and playing for 3 different high schools total? How could this be? Seriously, I’m confused. Also, kids certainly would never use a fake address or move in to a specific town to play for a certain school. Move ins are what they’re called because it sounds better than transfer. That’s ok though. Kid figures out a way to get into or moves to Cen10/ Mission/ Poly/ Los Al etc it’s morally wrong/building an all star team and is subject to crucification on the message board. If that happens at North shore, Westlake, Carroll etc it is 100% right. I talked to a Carroll dad at the caroll/highland park game the day before the MD game in Texas. He gave the run down on how they love transfer starters in southlake during the new dodge era. Tj McDaniel, Brady Boyd, cinque Williams etc. All those players are insignificant of course, just happened to be division 1 players that showed up at a great program after playing for other inferior schools for their first 2-3 years of high school. God bless those rich parents that bought homes in southlake so those D1 ball players could suit up for the dragons for a year or 2! ($1.3 MM median home price) Nothing to see there. California cheats, Texas is as pure as can be. Here are Ethan Burke’s highlights (2019)as a sophomore on JV https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11372778/5e9c1bfc0dc00d13f888f158 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: Here are Ethan Burke’s highlights (2019)as a sophomore on JV https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11372778/5e9c1bfc0dc00d13f888f158 Wrong guy brother. I already know Texas is as pure as holy water. No disagreement from me. Move ins from other states are no problem, unless they happen at Mater Dei of course! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Ethan Burke (#90) was on the team in 2020 https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/austin/westlake-chaparrals/football/20-21/roster/ You are correct. I was wrong on him. Thought he moved later. Will leave my posts as is, as a reminder that I was wrong on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, HurricaneNick said: Wrong guy brother. I already know Texas is as pure as holy water. No disagreement from me. Move ins from other states are no problem, unless they happen at Mater Dei of course! right guy. He said Ethan Burke transferred last year. He did not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, pied said: You are correct. I was wrong on him. Thought he moved later. Will leave my posts as is, as a reminder that I was wrong on him. In 6A last year the high end transfers I’m aware of were: hicks (Allen) shanahan (Westlake) burton (lake travis) 5A: jaylon Thomas (SOC) Malik Muhammad (SOC) bear Alexander (brewer) There are probably a few more but not many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILKINSON Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Open the floodgates and let athletes move wherever they desire, similar to Florida. @pied, which side of the fence are you on in terms of recruitment and transfers? Being a private school fan from Texas, I would like to hear your opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, WILKINSON said: Open the floodgates and let athletes move wherever they desire, similar to Florida. @pied, which side of the fence are you on in terms of recruitment and transfers? Being a private school fan from Texas, I would like to hear your opinion. I agree, let athletes transfer to wherever and for whatever reason then this issue would never have to be discussed again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, WILKINSON said: Open the floodgates and let athletes move wherever they desire, similar to Florida. @pied, which side of the fence are you on in terms of recruitment and transfers? Being a private school fan from Texas, I would like to hear your opinion. Fair question. I’d like schools to be true to their mission and the governing organization they belong to. I think that’s a safe statement for me. I grew up listening to my dad talk about HS players getting special treatment in rural PA. My father in law told me stories about the old days in West Texas and Dallas. My school conveniently picked up a star RB from oklahoma two years after I left and they needed one. Bottom line(sort of) I think stuff has been going on since forever and it’s part of the system and I’m probably a little jaded by it. What bothers me, perhaps you can tell lol, is when people aren’t really honest about discussing it. Does that make sense and answer the question? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 hours ago, pied said: Article from the Dallas Morning News regarding transfers in the area specifically around open enrollment The unregulated, All-Star-driven world of open enrollment loopholes in Texas high school football Some say open enrollment creates amateur free agency. Others liken it to the “wild West.” Should (or could) the UIL curb the phenomenon? The moment high school football players win a state championship is often the ultimate highlight since they first pulled on pads and stepped onto local fields for peewee games. It also represents the culmination of what has become an increasingly competitive and fluid youth football landscape, fueled, in part, by certain school district rules that have helped circumvent the traditional definition of high school sports. Open enrollment policies allow students to attend campuses without living in those schools’ boundaries. They broaden the options and programs from which parents and students can choose, while also drawing more enrollment — and subsequently more state funding — for those school systems. Open enrollment has a reputation for gridiron payoff, too. The policies can serve as a potential loophole for the formation of All Star-laden football teams through an unregulated, high-pressure, win-driven approach to coax students as early as seventh grade to transfer into open enrollment team pipelines and annually reload rosters with elite talent. In a survey of Dallas-area head football coaches, 37 of 40 respondents (92.5%) said they believe open enrollment policies affect competitive balance. A look at this year’s University Interscholastic League Class 5A and 6A state semifinalists supports the assertion. Six of the 16 schools — including Cedar Hill, Southlake Carroll and Austin Westlake playing for titles this weekend — have open enrollment or allow out-of-district transfers. Interviews with more than two dozen local coaches, players, parents and administrators back the view, too. Some called the process a version of amateur free agency. Others likened it to the “wild West.” None had a concrete idea for how the UIL should, or could, curb the phenomenon few coaches openly denounce but many quietly malign. “Coaches in the Metroplex are in a really hard situation,” said a local head coach whose ISD borders open enrollment districts, speaking anonymously to not jeopardize future job opportunities. “You’re not supposed to talk to kids that don’t live in your attendance zone. You’re not supposed to recruit. You’re not supposed to have people do it for you. “But you’re also supposed to win, so you’re put in this terrible predicament where you’re like, ‘Am I going to run my program with integrity and do the best I can with the kids that walk through my building? Or am I going to dip my hand into relationships and talk to people when I shouldn’t and dishonor the UIL rules, but then also allow myself to win football games on Friday night?’” The “residency” rule workaround Sixteen of the 43 independent school districts in the Dallas area with Class 5A or 6A sports have tuition-free open enrollment policies, according to DMN research. A few, such as Class 6A Division I state finalist Southlake Carroll, are finite. Carroll ISD’s policy extends just to students who live in the city limits of Southlake but outside the district’s boundaries. Others, such as Class 6A Division II state finalist Cedar Hill and football juggernauts Duncanville and DeSoto, have limitations based on space and previous academic performance. On the surface, open enrollment appears to clash with the “residency” rule in the UIL’s eligibility guidelines, which state an athlete must live with a parent or guardian inside a school’s district attendance zone. A caveat in the UIL’s constitution, however, has helped open enrollment align with athletics-based moves. If athletes transfer into an open enrollment district without moving into the attendance zone, they cannot play varsity sports for a year. Regardless of residence, they’ll have free range to play once they’d been “continuously enrolled in and regularly attending the school for at least the previous calendar year,” per UIL rules. Cue the youth movement. If a player transfers in or before ninth grade, a season of sub-varsity football isn’t a hindrance. Rather, it’s expected at most large UIL programs. Youth teams and middle school games have become prime ground for generating potential moves. Games during fall and spring Saturdays at facilities across the area can be all-day affairs. There’s pre- and post-game tailgating, online Facebook groups, and attendance from people who want to scout upcoming prospects. When Tasha McWright watched Dallas Lions games years ago, she’d recognize high school coaches in the crowd, wowed by her pre-teen son, Kendrick Blackshire, now an Alabama linebacker signee who transferred from Mesquite Horn to Duncanville in 2019 and who was always the biggest and strongest on the field. Steve Virgil, a former little league coach in Mesquite, learned the nuances of “surrogates,” such as a friend, another parent or a third-party coach, initiating introductions with high school coaches to avoid direct recruiting, a UIL violation. Jaylin Nelson, a quarterback who transferred from DeSoto to Duncanville in 2015, remembers his prowess as a First Baptist Academy middle schooler garnered attention from the staff at an open enrollment UIL school. He took a tour of their facilities and said he received free tickets to a major playoff game, though he never enrolled. “You don’t want to stay still and waste your high school career,” Nelson said. “It’s not like college. You can’t redshirt, so you have to make the best opportunity when you can.” Not every player in an open enrollment program faces this situation. There’s no UIL penalty for moving residences and submitting a Previous Athletic Participation Form (PAPF) that grants a clean release from the previous school. Open enrollment districts with multiple high schools, such as Garland ISD and Arlington ISD, show little correlation to on-field dominance. Five of nine coaches from open enrollment schools who responded to The News’ survey said they didn’t believe their teams benefited from the policies. “Some other people will probably disagree with me, but I don’t think it is,” DeSoto coach Claude Mathis said, noting the district’s collegiate magnet program as a primary open enrollment draw. Recent history, however, shows some perennial state championship contenders offer open enrollment. Galena Park North Shore and Duncanville, opponents in the 2018 and 2019 Class 6A Division I championships and state semifinalists this season, have open enrollment. So does Cedar Hill, which will play in its fourth title game since 2012 on Saturday against Katy. Eanes ISD, which includes Westlake, aiming for its second consecutive state championship Saturday versus Carroll, accepts transfers from non-district applicants. At least one Class 6A football state championships participant in each season since 2012 has come from an open enrollment district. “I don’t really know if there is an advantage to it or not,” Cedar Hill coach Carlos Lynn said. “I love a home-grown kid. I love a kid that’s been through our program, that’s been through that [football] boot camp for four years. Now, will I take somebody else? Yes.” DMN open enrollment survey results Based on responses for 40 head coaches of Dallas-area football teams: Do you think open enrollment policies affect competitive balance in football? Yes: 37 No: 3 If you coach in an open enrollment district, do you think your football program benefits? Yes: 4 No: 5 If you coach in a closed enrollment district, have you had a player transfer into an open district? Yes: 25 No: 7 Do you think programs in districts with open enrollment directly and/or indirectly recruit? Yes: 38 No: 2 A good, but not ‘perfect,’ system Open enrollment isn’t new. For years, school districts in Texas have allowed transfers in some fashion. Historically, most school systems have granted transfer requests from children of their employees, regardless of where they lived. Some districts, such as Dallas ISD, have created a patchwork of enrollment policies geared toward speciality or charter campuses, allowing out-of-district students a spot in those schools if seats aren’t filled by in-district students. Others allow intradistrict transfers, allowing students living in the district’s attendance boundaries to transfer to any district campus, provided there is space. In Garland, for example, all students in transition years — moving from elementary to middle school and middle to high school — are required to rank their choice of campus for the next school year. As the school choice movement has exploded over the past three decades, so has the number of schools across the country that allow for out-of-district transfers. Since Minnesota passed a state law in 1988 requiring districts to permit them, 20 other states have adopted laws that, in some way, authorize out-of-district transfers. School choice proponents have touted this change, arguing that such policies provide low-income families options they normally couldn’t access. Texas law permits — but doesn’t mandate — interdistrict transfers. And increasingly, said Kevin Brown — the executive director of the Texas Association of School Administrators — districts around the state have moved to allow them. A combination of deep funding cuts from the 2008 recession and rising redistribution of funds away from property-rich districts left school systems looking for ways to shore up their budgets, Brown said. Additionally, the dynamic growth of open enrollment charter operators — with more than 700 campuses opening statewide over the past decade, most in metro areas — exacerbated those funding woes, he said. State funding for public schools is tied to enrollment. A significant dip in enrollment means a tighter budget, with layoffs and even school closures looming on the horizon if those numbers don’t rebound. “The districts that were losing several millions a year were looking for ways to close that gap in funding, and one way to do that is to increase the number of students,” Brown said. Alfred Ray, Duncanville’s superintendent from 2007 to 2015, gave another reason for his district’s policy shift in the late 2000s: an aging population. Young families who came to the community over the previous two decades stayed in their homes after their children had graduated, said Ray, now a vice president at Stephens, a privately held financial services firm. “They decided it was a great place to live, and now, those same homes weren’t producing as many students as they used to,” he said. Ray saw the innovative approach that one of his mentors, former Grand Prairie ISD superintendent Susan Simpson Hull, had used with an aging elementary campus that was on the verge of closure. The school was transformed into an open enrollment “school of choice,” and its enrollment rebounded. Within three or four years, over the late 2000s and early 2010s, a swath of neighboring districts in Tarrant and southern Dallas counties — Grand Prairie, Duncanville, DeSoto, Cedar Hill and Lancaster — moved to more permissive transfer policies. Ray disagreed that charter schools were a driving factor for the change — saying that it has “become vogue” to put the blame on operators. He also dismissed that an open enrollment policy would be much of a bump for a district’s bottom line. Duncanville’s enrollment — like Cedar Hill and DeSoto — has not grown in recent years, cresting in 2012-13 with 13,238 students. With students transferring in and out of the district freely, “I think it all comes out in the wash,” Ray said. What’s driving open enrollment, he added, is a concerted effort to match what parents and students want with campuses that can meet those demands. Over the years, Ray said, he interviewed close to 4,000 parents on why they chose a particular campus, and “their reasons were as different as the parents were,” ranging from smaller class sizes and STEM offerings to neighborhood proximity and school leadership. Jamey Harrison, the UIL’s deputy director, said that people — including coaches and athletic directors — can “apply a very myopic lens to a much larger education issue,” overlooking how academic rationales play into the broader school-choice and transfer landscape. Too often, Harrison said, the lens is focused on specific sports, areas and schools — such as Class 4A boys basketball, where large urban districts such as Dallas and Houston have powerhouse programs that often dominate more rural, single-high school districts. “It’s missing the broader issue that the parents’ right to choose where their kid goes to school is very much a part of Texas public education, and will continue to be — as my expectation,” he said. While open enrollment policies have occasionally been a point of discussion at Legislative Council meetings, Harrison said there hasn’t been any movement to change the UIL’s existing two-pronged approach. “We have a very good system that is working, but it is not a perfect system,” he said. “But yes, I do believe it is appropriately addressing the issue.” The importance of exposure Frequent movement in major metro areas, regardless of policy, has long been part of Texas high school football culture. After all, Kyler Murray, arguably the greatest player in Texas high school history, moved from Lewisville to Allen, a closed enrollment district, before becoming a three-time state champion and going on to win a Heisman Trophy at the University of Oklahoma and becoming a top NFL draft pick. The value and pursuit of a college scholarship has become more competitive, highly publicized on social media and especially important for players in families with lower incomes. The lure to play for teams with a championship pedigree, heralded coaches and a consistent NCAA pipeline is strong. Programs of that quality with open enrollment have a simpler pathway for transfer athletes to pursue. Kaidon Salter, who will start at quarterback for Cedar Hill on Saturday, played his freshman season at DeSoto and his sophomore year at Bishop Lynch. He said he received recruiting attention from “all D-FW schools in this area” before enrolling at Cedar Hill for his junior and senior seasons. “I feel like that was the best spot for me,” Salter said. “It had a little bit to do with me living in Cedar Hill already and not wanting to deal with the UIL and the whole address thing.” The flipside can leave schools without open enrollment, or with less football tradition, working to convince current players that they should stay. Districts upgrade facilities and coaches attend sub-varsity games and let future players serve as ball boys. When Spencer Gilbert became head coach at Carter, which borders Duncanville and DeSoto ISDs, for example, he started visiting his middle school feeders regularly. The approach to squashing a sports-focused transfer, whether to an open or closed enrollment school, is clear. The UIL’s PAPF gives coaches of outgoing transfers the opportunity to assert whether conflict, recruiting, suspension or “athletic purposes” influenced the move and to trigger a district executive committee hearing to review eligibility. But coaches sometimes hesitate to hamper a student’s future, even at their team’s expense. Some operate under an unspoken rule to not fight transfer departures so others do not object to their transfer arrivals. Twenty-five of the 32 coaches The News surveyed from closed enrollment districts said they’d lost a player to open enrollment transfer, but just 12 said they’d noted an issue on the PAPF. Criticism of the UIL’s process falls flat if coaches and administrators don’t flag discrepancies. “The people who are most impacted ... are the ones who are making the initial decision,” Harrison said, “If they choose not to take the time to properly investigate, that’s a choice they’ve made.” Decisions don’t just fall to leadership. As a sophomore quarterback in 2012, Chason Virgil garnered frequent interest from open enrollment teams when West Mesquite’s coach left and his success as an eventual four-year varsity starter was apparent. Virgil’s dad, Steve, was willing to drive Chason to school every day if a transfer could generate more recruiting exposure and playoff experience. Virgil’s mom, Patrice, wasn’t. If his talent was genuine, she thought, a change was unnecessary. Virgil, now an assistant coach at North Crowley, didn’t transfer. But he’s often wondered about his potential had he joined a powerhouse. “Looking back on it, I probably should’ve made that move,” he said. “That school would’ve given me better opportunities to … leave a bigger legacy.” Open enrollment in the Dallas area Of the 43 school districts in the Dallas area with Class 6A and 5A schools, more than a dozen offer broad open-enrollment policies. Others, however, offer more selective policies. A look at Dallas-area districts and their forms of open enrollment. Open enrollment in the Dallas area Of the 43 school districts in the Dallas area with Class 6A and 5A schools, more than a dozen offer broad open-enrollment policies. Others, however, offer more selective policies. A look at Dallas-area districts and their forms of open enrollment. School Open Enrollment policy Allen ISD No Arlington ISD Yes Birdville ISD Yes Carroll ISD Only within city limits. Carrollton-Farmers Branch ISD Yes Cedar Hill ISD Yes Coppell ISD Only within city limits. Corsicana ISD No Crowley ISD Yes Dallas ISD Magnet/charter programs allow for flexibility in enrollment. Denton ISD No DeSoto ISD Yes Duncanville ISD Yes Ennis ISD No Forney ISD No Frisco ISD No Garland ISD Choice of school within district. Grand Prairie ISD Yes Grapevine-Colleyville ISD Only within city limits. Highland Park ISD No Hurst-Euless-Bedford ISD Only for "School of Choice" academic programs. Irving ISD Yes Keller ISD No Lake Dallas ISD Yes Lancaster ISD Yes Little Elm ISD No Lewisville ISD No Lovejoy ISD Tuition-based for out-of-district. Mansfield ISD No McKinney ISD No Mesquite ISD No Midlothian ISD No Northwest ISD No Plano ISD No Princeton ISD No Prosper ISD No Red Oak ISD No Richardson ISD No Rockwall ISD No Royce City ISD No Terrell ISD Tuition-based for out-of-district. Waxahachie ISD Waxahachie Global High School is open enrollment, but doesn't offer sports. Wylie ISD No Football success in open enrollment Since 2010, 13 schools in the Dallas area have appeared in title games in the UIL’s two biggest classifications. Six of them offer open enrollment. North Texas state finalists with a form of open enrollment 2020: Southlake Carroll, Cedar Hill 2019: Duncanville 2018: Duncanville 2016: DeSoto* 2014: Cedar Hill* 2013: Cedar Hill* 2012: Cedar Hill, Lancaster 2010: Euless Trinity *Won title Note: Southlake Carroll’s current form of open enrollment began in 2013, two years after its most recent title. https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/football/2021/01/14/the-unregulated-all-star-driven-world-of-open-enrollment-loopholes-in-texas-high-school-football/ I’m not reading all of that. What is this saying? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, HurricaneNick said: Wrong guy brother. I already know Texas is as pure as holy water. No disagreement from me. Move ins from other states are no problem, unless they happen at Mater Dei of course! Actually, Only if they’re commuting 40 mins from the school 🚳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Actually, Only if they’re commuting 40 mins from the school 😌 We commute ~40 minutes to school. Did so with my daughter who played no sports. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, pied said: We commute ~40 minutes to school. Did so with my daughter who played no sports. You daughter attends a private school too, right? So now we’re back to describing the general footprint diff between public and private schools i guarantee public schools in Texas would have a problem if privates in the uil were able to monopolize talent from a footprint that was 40-50 miles wide. (right now they aren’t able to leverage talent in their favor) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 She’s a junior in college, currently doing a trimester in London. Point was that it’s not unique to MD to have a broad are where students live. I don’t know what restrictions the UIL has, but Dallas Jesuit has students for as far north as Celina and south from Waxahachie. https://www.jesuitdallas.org/admissions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker Posted April 13, 2022 Report Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 hours ago, pied said: She’s a junior in college, currently doing a trimester in London. Point was that it’s not unique to MD to have a broad are where students live. I don’t know what restrictions the UIL has, but Dallas Jesuit has students for as far north as Celina and south from Waxahachie. https://www.jesuitdallas.org/admissions I used to drive from Richardson to st marks. That was considered insane, back in the day. LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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