HawgGoneIt Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Idc what type of leaps you try to make, there is no way to defend the disparity in the rules between the majority of the hsfb teams in the country and these few in question. We have a few that have no state associations or anything to answer to at all so they can pretty much do what they want as compared to standard teams. Then we have a few that basically are allowed to operate exactly like a college team, per one of the coaches in that league. Then, they get ranked with and against the normal hsfb teams, and people spend years on here calling regular teams pussies and that type activity if they don't close the bank accounts and go play them. Hell we have guys on here that just dry call regular hsfb teams and con them into playing these teams to try to validate them further. Whether these teams can be beat by a regular hsfb team, or not is really of no consequence to the debate. The simple fact is they, by their own admittance, aren't hsfb teams. They don't act like hsfb teams. They don't pull their athletes like hsfb teams. They then play hsfb teams that are either forced to play them, or conned into it by that Gridiron Preps guy. Then the pollsters just pretend these are actually hsfb teams and rank them above normal teams. Then they basically say... don't like it... Get like them. Nah. It's not right. There is nothing enjoyable about seeing a college team play a neighborhood team and stomping them out. Nothing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Of course not, but the rules disparity is huge at this point. It doesn't make any sense logically to classify the teams together. What specific rules disparity are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, dntn31 said: What specific rules disparity are you referring to? The ability to pull and reload from an area larger than the state of Georgia would be one. Then teams like IMG and SFA are even a step further than that. They have no association to even pretend to be policing recruiting of players. At least the Trinity League teams have an association that pretends to be enforcing some rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 15 hours ago, GREYHOUNDALUM said: It’s a pretty simple solution to this, just don’t play them. If you are going to schedule them, you have no leg to stand on. Well we don't have to worry about his team EVER scheduling a top dawg. It's their MO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Idc what type of leaps you try to make, there is no way to defend the disparity in the rules between the majority of the hsfb teams in the country and these few in question. how? 33 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: We have a few that have no state associations or anything to answer to at all so they can pretty much do what they want as compared to standard teams. not in California. 33 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Then we have a few that basically are allowed to operate exactly like a college team, per one of the coaches in that league. How does do they operate not like a prep team? at TL kids have to take classes every day. They have to to do service hours and take SAT's. They do have more then other schools but the Hawgs have better field then them? don't see crying about it or calling the hawgs a fake team. 33 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Then, they get ranked with and against the normal hsfb teams, and people spend years on here calling regular teams pussies and that type activity if they don't close the bank accounts and go play them. Hell we have guys on here that just dry call regular hsfb teams and con them into playing these teams to try to validate them further. if teams what to be consider national powers they should play other national powers. This isn't "Local Southern Georgia Prep". 33 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Whether these teams can be beat by a regular hsfb team, or not is really of no consequence to the debate. The simple fact is they, by their own admittance, aren't hsfb teams. one quote from one coach speaks for all teams? then every coach in Georgia chokes and headbutts kids. 33 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Then the pollsters just pretend these are actually hsfb teams and rank them above normal teams. Then they basically say... don't like it... Get like them. Nah. It's not right. There is nothing enjoyable about seeing a college team play a neighborhood team and stomping them out. Nothing. then don't watch...but don't act like the school you root for doesn't have several "unfair advantages" over "real" schools don't have. How many "real" schools in the USA can pay their coach this much money? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: You are either a hsfb team, or, you're not. The JSerra coach says they aren't and JSerra isn't half of what MD or SJB are. It's not about moral superiority at all. It's about the huge disparity in rules and actions between how some schools operate vs. the majority of the schools in the USA. Then playing the normally operating schools, being ranked against and with them. The only similarity between these schools and the vast majority of schools in the USA is the age group participating. How long you going to continue to take his words out of context? Why not say what he said after that sentence? He was talking about how they have the ability to add different programs like specialized strength and conditioning and nutrition and what not. You take those few words and claim it as him saying we are an academy and we do not consider ourselves to be a hsfb team at all. Child please. you're better than this. Who cares? Is this not a free country where parents can send their kids to whichever school they feel like as long as its legal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, dntn31 said: What specific rules disparity are you referring to? "valid change of residence." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCACguy Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: how? not in California. How does do they operate not like a prep team? at TL kids have to take classes every day. They have to to do service hours and take SAT's. They do have more then other schools but the Hawgs have better field then them? don't see crying about it or calling the hawgs a fake team. if teams what to be consider national powers they should play other national powers. This isn't "Local Southern Georgia Prep". one quote from one coach speaks for all teams? then every coach in Georgia chokes and headbutts kids. then don't watch...but don't act like the school you root for doesn't have several "unfair advantages" over "real" schools don't have. How much many "real" schools in the USA can pay their coach this much money? It's become apparent to me that one Mythical National Champion is not enough. I suggest we have a Public (with college facilities) Mythical National Championship, a Public (without big bucks) Mythical National Championship, a Private (with big bucks) Mythical National Championship, a Private (without big bucks) Mythical National Championship and an Academy (IMG v SFA) Mythical National Championship. Would that make everyone 😊? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just now, WCACguy said: It's become apparent to me that one Mythical National Champion is not enough. I suggest we have a Public (with college facilities) Mythical National Championship, a Public (without big bucks) Mythical National Championship, a Private (with big bucks) Mythical National Championship, a Private (without big bucks) Mythical National Championship and an Academy (IMG v SFA) Mythical National Championship. Would that make everyone 😊? Make it the the UFC and have 13 weight classes... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: The ability to pull and reload from an area larger than the state of Georgia would be one. I'm not sure I follow this argument at all. This really isn't an example of operating under different rules. It's simply an artifact of environment. The fact that Southern California has 15+ million people is not something that is going to change any time soon and it applies to any private school in Southern California. Are you going to lump Servite and St. Paul into this classification of as well? Those schools share the same opportunities and rules that MD and SJB have. Are you saying that schools should only be allowed to play other schools that are located within locations with similar demographics and other environmental factors? Should King be removed from the Big VIII because it's in the Riverside Unified school district while every other school in the league is in the Corona-Norco Unified school district? Should Grace Brethren and Bishop Diego be removed from the Camino league because they are privates and Camariilo, Moorpark and Thousand Oaks are publics? 38 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: At least the Trinity League teams have an association that pretends to be enforcing some rules. The CIF and CIFSS do have rules that MD and SJB operate under which are the same for every other school in those areas. You seem to be implying that there is some sort of rule breaking that is happening specifically at these schools. You should stop beating around the bush and lay it all out for us how MD and SJB are breaking these rules. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 hours ago, frankyjames said: Yet, these same clowns bark at NorCal publics "You can't beat us! You are scared!" LMFAO! Comical. Its not impressive to continuously stack top talent until you are better than everyone. ANY team in America would be better if they started stacking talent. Its pitiful a fan of one of those teams could get on here & claim to be the best... All because they stacked up more & more good players until they were best. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, ECHS05 said: Its not impressive to continuously stack top talent until you are better than everyone. ANY team in America would be better if they started stacking talent. Its pitiful a fan of one of those teams could get on here & claim to be the best... All because they stacked up more & more good players until they were best. A legal way of life cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, AztecPadre said: Well we don't have to worry about his team EVER scheduling a top dawg. It's their MO. Nah, I think we'll stick with playing high school football teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Nah, I think we'll stick with playing high school football teams. Will those teams have the money to pay their coach over a $100k a year or spend $3.7 mill on a practice field? Asking for a friend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Its not impressive to continuously stack top talent until you are better than everyone. ANY team in America would be better if they started stacking talent. Its pitiful a fan of one of those teams could get on here & claim to be the best... All because they stacked up more & more good players until they were best. Except for Grayson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Nah, I think we'll stick with playing high school football teams. Whatever helps y'all sleep at night. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: Whatever helps y'all sleep at night. Lol In other news 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, AztecPadre said: How long you going to continue to take his words out of context? Why not say what he said after that sentence? He was talking about how they have the ability to add different programs like specialized strength and conditioning and nutrition and what not. You take those few words and claim it as him saying we are an academy and we do not consider ourselves to be a hsfb team at all. Child please. you're better than this. Who cares? Is this not a free country where parents can send their kids to whichever school they feel like as long as its legal? Now we are getting somewhere. You don't like it when I play by the same loose rules as you and others. You expect that I should keep being the better than that? See. You feel the same way as me more or less. You're just picking when and where to apply the... "You're better than that" rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Idc what type of leaps you try to make, there is no way to defend the disparity in the rules between the majority of the hsfb teams in the country and these few in question. We have a few that have no state associations or anything to answer to at all so they can pretty much do what they want as compared to standard teams. Then we have a few that basically are allowed to operate exactly like a college team, per one of the coaches in that league. Then, they get ranked with and against the normal hsfb teams, and people spend years on here calling regular teams pussies and that type activity if they don't close the bank accounts and go play them. Hell we have guys on here that just dry call regular hsfb teams and con them into playing these teams to try to validate them further. Whether these teams can be beat by a regular hsfb team, or not is really of no consequence to the debate. The simple fact is they, by their own admittance, aren't hsfb teams. They don't act like hsfb teams. They don't pull their athletes like hsfb teams. They then play hsfb teams that are either forced to play them, or conned into it by that Gridiron Preps guy. Then the pollsters just pretend these are actually hsfb teams and rank them above normal teams. Then they basically say... don't like it... Get like them. Nah. It's not right. There is nothing enjoyable about seeing a college team play a neighborhood team and stomping them out. Nothing. The jealousy is strong with this one. Cali folk have to be use to this. I mean Cali pretty much dominates in every high school sport, especially football. Us Cal folks have to put ourselves in there shoes. Imagine having to go year after year without seeing one of your states teams atop the polls. On top of that having multiple teams at or near the top. So lets cut them some slack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Now we are getting somewhere. You don't like it when I play by the same loose rules as you and others. You expect that I should keep being the better than that? See. You feel the same way as me more or less. You're just picking when and where to apply the... "You're better than that" rule. how much did Rush make? Orange High School couldn't afford that...How much was the indoor practice field? Orange High School couldn't afford that. Orange High School is real prep football, your school is D3 College ball. not fair...Maxpreps should take you out of the rankings.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Publics like Lakeland, Miramar, Venice, both Cen10s, MC, Mentor, ET, Marietta Saguaro, etc have all beaten power privates of late. Those wins indicate that such segregation is not warranted. I disagree. As previously stated, on occasion a team can beat these schools that play loose with the rules. That doesn't change the fact that there isn't competitive equity due to difference in rules, application of rules, enforcement of rules or interpretation of rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Now we are getting somewhere. You don't like it when I play by the same loose rules as you and others. You expect that I should keep being the better than that? See. You feel the same way as me more or less. You're just picking when and where to apply the... "You're better than that" rule. No reply? It's best you didn't anyway. I'd suggest that we take it to litigation then big bank take little bank. Isn't that the playbook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: competitive equity 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 12, 2019 Report Share Posted September 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: No reply? It's best you didn't anyway. I'd suggest that we take it to litigation then big bank take little bank. Isn't that the playbook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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