ATLien12x Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 @steeler01hasn’t posted a year and came back with this? Silliness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: @steeler01hasn’t posted a year and came back with this? Silliness. Just to show how silly you guys looked by trying to mock my top pick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 11:54 PM, steeler01 said: Offensive rookie of the year: Justin Herbert https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/06/offensive-rookie-of-the-year-justin-herbert/ @ATLien12x @HurricaneNick @ThunderRam @Nolebull813 @Sweetlarry Tua this and that and Herbert ends up having the best season for a QB from this NFL draft by far I like you Steeler, but what is the point here? Premature ejaculation?? I’m reminded of one of my close friends who argued with me in 2009 over Tyreke Evans vs. Steph Curry. After ONE season he bragged just like you’re doing now because Tyreke averaged 20-5-5 and won ROY. Even after season 2 he was unrelenting. But by season 4 he looked just plain stupid. Now he never wants me to bring the subject up. Good luck with that! With regard to Herbert and Tua, we’re not gonna know the end all, be all answer for a few seasons. First, Tua was less than a year removed from major injury and surgery. He hadn’t gained his full strength back (he’s looking mighty fit now fwiw). Secondly, Herbert had more to work with offensively. MIA is a defensive led team, the offensive talent wasn’t on the same level and even the upper tier talent they do have was out with injury. Tua was often throwing to the likes of Mack Hollins, Lynn Bowden and Jakeem Grant. PFF shows Tua having the least amount of average time to throw the ball than any QB. So the oline was a mess too. Despite that, what was Tua’s record as a starting QB? 6-3. Meanwhile Herbert was under .500. I’m not suggesting Tua will ever be part of a Super Bowl winning team, let alone do it 7 times, but go compare Tua’s first 9 starts to Tom Brady’s first 9 starts. Eerily similar in terms of record and statistical output. Also very similar in that they QB’d defensive led teams with limited offensive skill personnel. Brady won games throwing for 150 yards. Point is, you can’t take any victory laps just yet. Let’s see how the next couple seasons play out. On 1/23/2021 at 12:59 PM, ATLien12x said: @steeler01hasn’t posted a year and came back with this? Silliness. Yep. Very premature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, ThunderRam said: Despite that, what was Tua’s record as a starting QB? 6-3. Meanwhile Herbert was under .500. Winning record is a team accomplishment. As you mentioned in your post, the dolphins had one thing the Chargers didn't have, a defense. Dolphins 6th in ppg Chargers 23rd ppg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 13, 2021 Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 The funniest thing ever was @Sweetlarrybetting me that Joe Burrow would still win Rookie of the Year even after it was clear that Herbert was better and was out-performing him week after week. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/13/2021 at 2:30 AM, steeler01 said: Winning record is a team accomplishment. As you mentioned in your post, the dolphins had one thing the Chargers didn't have, a defense. Dolphins 6th in ppg Chargers 23rd ppg Winning a championship is also a team accomplishment. But that sure doesn't stop the masses from believing QB's win titles (not teams) and anointing those that have been fortunate to be on numerous title winning teams as automatic GOAT's. But I digress.... As for the PPG, are you kidding me with that? MIA averaged a whopping 1.3 ppg more. You need to stop looking at football-reference.com metrics. MIA had a much better defense, but SD had more weapons on offense. IDK how you can even debate that. Keenan Allen, Hunter Henry, Mike Williams, Austin Eckler >>>>>> the patchwork offense MIA had most the season. Preston Williams missed half the season. DeVante Parker was limited all season with a lingering hamstring issue and their starting RB also missed significant time with an injury. So Tua and Fitzpatrick were often flanked by the likes of Mack Hollins, Isaiah Ford, Lynn Bowden, Malcolm Perry, Jakeem Grant and several different RB's you probably never heard of. Meanwhile the Chargers offense really only lost Austin Eckler for any significant time. All of the above pales in comparison to the main point, which is that it's WAY too early to be gloating or declaring a winner. We need to see what transpires over the next couple seasons. Best recent example to cite is Josh Allen. There are pundits out there that now like him better Lamar Jackson. Prior to 2020, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 1/22/2021 at 11:54 PM, steeler01 said: Offensive rookie of the year: Justin Herbert https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/06/offensive-rookie-of-the-year-justin-herbert/ @ATLien12x @HurricaneNick @ThunderRam @Nolebull813 @Sweetlarry Tua this and that and Herbert ends up having the best season for a QB from this NFL draft by far Is Tua still better then Herbert? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 10/14/2019 at 6:57 AM, Texasfrog said: That's funny.. because I say the exact same thing about Mater Dei's QB (Bryce Young). Has all day to throw... has a lot of elite 5-Star and 4-Star WR level talent around him... makes him look 10X better than what he really is. My prediction with Bryce Young.. He'll spend one year on Bama's campus and learn that all these other highly regarded QB's on the roster are just better than him. Lol, your predictions are just like your posts(Terrible) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/13/2019 at 2:47 PM, steeler01 said: 1- Herbert 2-OL 3-OL As of today, Herbert is a top 5 NFL QB. While Tua is a clipboard holder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 12 hours ago, steeler01 said: As of today, Herbert is a top 5 NFL QB. While Tua is a clipboard holder Tua's on IR but yeah this "race" seems over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 6:33 PM, steeler01 said: As of today, Herbert is a top 5 NFL QB. He didn't play like it last week.... J. Herbert 22/39 195 1 TD 1 INT 18.6 QB Rating 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 You can always count on RedZone to pimp a small sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: a small sample size. The game was 60 minutes.....👌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Reminds me of last year when he trashed these quarterbacks at various times: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, RedZone said: He didn't play like it last week.... J. Herbert 22/39 195 1 TD 1 INT 18.6 QB Rating We have 6 weeks of data to show the level he's playing at. You'll have stinkers every now and then. Just look at Rodgers week 1 or Tom last year against the Packers in the playoffs and against the Saints in the regular season. Let me guess, Burrow and Prescott are better right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Burrow and Prescott are better right? QB Ratings https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/nfl/player-stats/passing Burrow and Prescott are doing pretty good. Brady is doing ok for an old timer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, RedZone said: QB Ratings https://www.footballdb.com/statistics/nfl/player-stats/passing Burrow and Prescott are doing pretty good. Brady is doing ok for an old timer. They're doing just fine, but the question was, do you think they're better? Answer that question, don't evade it with a passer rating chart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, steeler01 said: They're doing just fine, but the question was, do you think they're better? Answer that question, don't evade it with a passer rating chart If you are talking about this year Burrow and Prescott so far are as good if not better than those guys.. You don't want to admit it, but it's true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Ch-ch-ch-cherry pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 Here he is saying that Joe Burrow was better than Tom Brady last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Here he is saying that Joe Burrow was better than Tom Brady last year. Don't blame me for Tom Brady stinking that night.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 We don't deal in hypotheticals. Ja feel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, RedZone said: If you you talking about this year Burrow and Prescott so far are as good if not better than those guys.. You don't want to admit it, but it's true... Burrow is not as good as Herbert this year nor any year, but he's a solid QB. Dak is playing well, he's also the least pressured qb in the NFL. Herbert and Burrow are very similar in pressure percentage(.4 separates them) but Herbert is carrying a team by scoring a lot more than Burrow and the Bengals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Burrow is not as good as Herbert this year nor any year, but he's a solid QB. Dak is playing well, he's also the least pressured qb in the NFL. Herbert and Burrow are very similar in pressure percentage(.4 separates them) but Herbert is carrying a team by scoring a lot more than Burrow and the Bengals Herbert is way better than burrows. Just look at fantasy rankings. Burrows is way down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 19, 2021 Report Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Herbert and Burrow are very similar in pressure percentage(.4 separates them) but Herbert is carrying a team by scoring a lot more than Burrow and the Bengals The Bengals have one of the best RBs in the NFL that not many talk about..... Joe Mixon. Mixon has taken some of the pressure off Joe Burrow. The Bengals aren't bad. They have some offensive weapons and the defense is playing solid so far. Rummel's own Ja'Marr Chase may win Rookie of the Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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