HooverOutlaw Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Basically, if the Valdosta AD files a fraudulent eligibility form with the main office in Thomaston, the GHSA did it(something fraudulent or dirty) Then if some other AD presses the issue with additional evidence and asks for further investigation, then again the GHSA did it. (Found additional evidence and started an investigation) The folks in Thomaston only rule in the information they have, which they usually get from their AD members. Reminds me of Cam Newton at Auburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: The GHSA likely received the filings from the Valdosta administration pertaining to eligibility request and accepted them as truth and ok'd him to play. You have to understand that the Valdosta AD is the GHSA in this situation, as is the Colquitt AD and any other ADs in the state. They are what technically makes up the GHSA. So both the Valdosta AD and the GHSA accepted false info. Both should have known this deal was bad from day 1. I really hope the mother has moved to Valdosta just to see more of this circus. Garcia could hold the record for being found eligible twice and ineligible in the same week. I bet the California kid is getting a bunch girls feeling sorry for him and wanting to make him feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: So both the Valdosta AD and the GHSA accepted false info. Both should have known this deal was bad from day 1. I really hope the mother has moved to Valdosta just to see more of this circus. Garcia could hold the record for being found eligible twice and ineligible in the same week. I bet the California kid is getting a bunch girls feeling sorry for him and wanting to make him feel better. The Valdosta AD is the GHSA. He/she is the Valdosta City Schools representative for the GHSA when its time to vote on rules and other business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Basically, if the Valdosta AD files a fraudulent eligibility form with the main office in Thomaston, the GHSA did it(something fraudulent or dirty) Then if some other AD presses the issue with additional evidence and asks for further investigation, then again the GHSA did it. (Found additional evidence and started an investigation) The folks in Thomaston only rule in the information they have, which they usually get from their AD members. But you're under the impression the Valdosta AD or Valdosta faculty/front office members made fraudulent claims to get Jake immediate eligibility, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, FootballGuy said: But you're under the impression the Valdosta AD or Valdosta faculty/front office members made fraudulent claims to get Jake immediate eligibility, correct? Considering the information I have been seeing, somebody made some fraudulent claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, HawgGoneIt said: Considering the information I have been seeing, somebody made some fraudulent claims. Yeah. It'll all come out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, FootballGuy said: Yeah. It'll all come out soon. I think it will. Just going off of what we've seen, the folks told espn one thing and Valdosta turned in something different to the main office of the GHSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: I think it will. Just going off of what we've seen, the folks told espn one thing and Valdosta turned in something different to the main office of the GHSA. For his sake, hopefully there were some commonalities between the espn interview and what was given to ghsa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: For his sake, hopefully there were some commonalities between the espn interview and what was given to ghsa. I think its a CYOA deal. Valdosta is going to claim everything they saw was on the up and up and then the Mom and Dad went and contradicted all of that in the ESPN thing so its going to be a surprise to them too. At least that's how it looks like they're gonna play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Jacob will play against Lowndes. Lime Sink will see to that. We have the popular vote !!!!!! Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 hours ago, FootballGuy said: Anybody from south georgia complained to ghsa about Del Rio transferring to Grayson? Follow me because I'm going somewhere with this. Don't know. Don't care. Lots of people seem to complain about most everything we do so why should it matter if someone in S Ga complained? Even out of state people complain. 😉 In del Rio's case, I understand everyone didn't move at the same time. Cool. He isn't eligible at that time. By the time football season came around, the household member that didn't move wasn't a member of the household any more as he had graduated high school and moved on to college. That puzzles me some but so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Fred said: Don't know. Don't care. Lots of people seem to complain about most everything we do so why should it matter if someone in S Ga complained? Even out of state people complain. 😉 In del Rio's case, I understand everyone didn't move at the same time. Cool. He isn't eligible at that time. By the time football season came around, the household member that didn't move wasn't a member of the household any more as he had graduated high school and moved on to college. That puzzles me some but so be it. Ahhh.... I expected that response. All good tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 22 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: I'm guessing the hammy got worse and not better with the last two weeks off? I feel bad for the kid. He just wanted to play the game he loves. Once again adults get in the way of kids being able to be kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 22 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: So in that case they would have likely brought falsified documents to produce to the administration at Valdosta, who then clearly wouldn't have followed up or they would have known. They also would have straight up lied in the ESPN interview. I'm not sure but, considering the apparent attempt at fraud to begin with, I guess either could be possible. Crazy story for sure. All a part of a Showtime series too. Seems like Showtime may be getting their money's worth of drama already and the season is very young still. Does Showtime now drop the show with Garcia gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Pick up the kid, Harry. Let him play. What could go wrong? Let him play , let him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, old_e said: Pick up the kid, Harry. Let him play. What could go wrong? Let him play , let him play. I agree. Let Garcia play.....for Valwood !!!!! Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: Does Showtime now drop the show with Garcia gone? Showtime was involved before the kid was ever thought about I think. There was hints of a documentary on Facebook before the Garcias transferred in. As far as that previous post about the adults getting in the way, it is kind of true. There are rules there and they're supposed to apply equally across the board. Sometimes folks don't necessarily think those rules apply to them, and sometimes, they arent applied equally across the board. Sometimes examples are made of folks. Idk what category this one is. There is a lot of stuff coming out. Some from Rush that is contradictory to the story the parents told to ESPN. The story continues to be crazy as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: Showtime was involved before the kid was ever thought about I think. There was hints of a documentary on Facebook before the Garcias transferred in. As far as that previous post about the adults getting in the way, it is kind of true. There are rules there and they're supposed to apply equally across the board. Sometimes folks don't necessarily think those rules apply to them, and sometimes, they arent applied equally across the board. Sometimes examples are made of folks. Idk what category this one is. There is a lot of stuff coming out. Some from Rush that is contradictory to the story the parents told to ESPN. The story continues to be crazy as hell. What has Rush been saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: What has Rush been saying? That the Garcias made a bona fide move. If that is/was so, then why all the hoopla story on ESPN and all the legal separation nonsense? Why did the mom say she made it to the first game and hoped to make it to another couple before the season was over? All that stuff that was in the ESPN interview says they made no attempt to make a bona fide move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: That the Garcias made a bona fide move. If that is/was so, then why all the hoopla story on ESPN and all the legal separation nonsense? Why did the mom say she made it to the first game and hoped to make it to another couple before the season was over? All that stuff that was in the ESPN interview says they made no attempt to make a bona fide move. Them damn ESPN people just lying thru their teeth !!!!! Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Rufus69 said: Them damn ESPN people just lying thru their teeth !!!!! Rufus>> Fake news! This was all ESPN out to get Rush. Idk how he would let them televise their game since all of the lies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodchopper Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Dont know if it has been posted yet but seen it on another sit from VDT. Rush says I don't care what the mother says. She is lying. Lol According to Valdosta head coach Rush Propst, Garcia was originally declared eligible by the GHSA on Aug. 19 –– 16 days before the 'Cats opener against the Demons. "They ruled him eligible," Propst said during his coach's show Tuesday evening. "So, there's two letters that are two different things – one letter on Sept. 18 saying there's an investigation based upon a comment that the mother made on ESPN about a legal separation and then the letter we got (Tuesday) talks about the bonafide move situation. I'm not sure which it is. "Obviously, we'd like to know because we feel like our administration – our A.D., our athletic secretary, our principal, our superintendent, everybody – did everything possible to make this right. When you move into the community, all principal members of the family have to move, which that happened." Propst alleges that Garcia's parents, Randy and Yvonne, leased an apartment and put their home up for lease five days after moving with their son to Valdosta. According to Propst, Yvonne stayed back in California to get the house leased. "For us, they're here," Propst said. "They're living in our district. They relinquished their house in California. We've got documentation. We've sent it to the GHSA. So we feel like the young man's eligible, regardless of what the mother says on TV – that's a non-issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Woodchopper said: Dont know if it has been posted yet but seen it on another sit from VDT. Rush says I don't care what the mother says. She is lying. Lol According to Valdosta head coach Rush Propst, Garcia was originally declared eligible by the GHSA on Aug. 19 –– 16 days before the 'Cats opener against the Demons. "They ruled him eligible," Propst said during his coach's show Tuesday evening. "So, there's two letters that are two different things – one letter on Sept. 18 saying there's an investigation based upon a comment that the mother made on ESPN about a legal separation and then the letter we got (Tuesday) talks about the bonafide move situation. I'm not sure which it is. "Obviously, we'd like to know because we feel like our administration – our A.D., our athletic secretary, our principal, our superintendent, everybody – did everything possible to make this right. When you move into the community, all principal members of the family have to move, which that happened." Propst alleges that Garcia's parents, Randy and Yvonne, leased an apartment and put their home up for lease five days after moving with their son to Valdosta. According to Propst, Yvonne stayed back in California to get the house leased. "For us, they're here," Propst said. "They're living in our district. They relinquished their house in California. We've got documentation. We've sent it to the GHSA. So we feel like the young man's eligible, regardless of what the mother says on TV – that's a non-issue. Didn't the mom and dad both says some things in that interview? At least the written one I read, he said he expected to get flak from all of this. "The requirements [are] a full family move, so that and, obviously, grades and that kind of thing," Randy said. "So at this point, we got a legal separation. We're right down the guidelines as far as being eligible to play." https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29893046/the-star-college-football-recruit-parents-unusual-decision-cross-country-move Yup! Sounds like a lying mom and a bona fide move to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: The Valdosta AD is the GHSA. He/she is the Valdosta City Schools representative for the GHSA when its time to vote on rules and other business. I saw on Twitter that the Garcia family left 3 yard dogs and a 2 wild tom cats in California and they are coming in on a delta flight Friday morning. When the GHSA said the whole family they mean it. I also understand the Valdosta booster club has given unlimited alpo and 9 lives to the Garcia family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: I saw on Twitter that the Garcia family left 3 yard dogs and a 2 wild tom cats in California and they are coming in on a delta flight Friday morning. When the GHSA said the whole family they mean it. I also understand the Valdosta booster club has given unlimited alpo and 9 lives to the Garcia family. It's something going on there. Both parents are liars or something per Rush. Pretty wild story developing before our eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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