Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, DownSouth said: Do we need to praise the first person that comes out and tells us to take Tylenol because it’s proven in the fight against mild Covid 19 symptoms? This toady wants us to praise Trump for saying that this would be helpful but Trump says a lot of things. He says practically everything that comes to his mind. Somehow he never wants to rebuke Trump for the dumb things he says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Bed rest is helpful in most cases. It was not approved for COVID-19 treatment. You can whine about it all you want but the claims made were simple fact. I have nothing to whine about. The AMA and a slew of studies agree with me. You seem desperate to spew chaff out your ass though. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, concha said: I have nothing to whine about. Then why are you whining? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, concha said: The AMA and a slew of studies agree with me. They don't agree with you that the drug was approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, concha said: You seem desperate to spew chaff out your ass though. 🤣 I'm comfortable that the judgment of the people reading this thread is that you're a desperate toady who doesn't care about truth or facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, DownSouth said: So where did Merck state “the virus is better than getting one of the approved vaccines.” They didn’t, they released their data that shows in creating immunity, covid does a better job than their experimental drug 👍 6 minutes ago, DownSouth said: You said that was what Merck “admitted.” Actually I said nothing of the sort. And Not even a troll would try to claim that Merc could speak for another company 🤓 so your false accusations really wreak of desperation 🤣 10 minutes ago, DownSouth said: I’d like to read what you read Then you should probably just ask lol. 12 minutes ago, DownSouth said: because that’s pretty big news if they said that. Pssst....nope, that’s just you 🤣 see below 👇 14 minutes ago, DownSouth said: Seems like I read something incorrectly or read something off an overly slanted site that misrepresented something. Fify 👍 🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I'm comfortable that the judgment of the people reading this thread is that you're a desperate toady who doesn't care about truth or facts. But you care ❤️ Amirite? 🤓 🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Odds that this sanctimonious prick knew the whole time? Cuomo comes clean: NY admits COVID nursing home deaths are 43% percent HIGHER than previously stated at nearly 13,000 - HOURS after AG's excoriating report accusing state of undercutting number by 50% 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, concha said: Odds that this sanctimonious prick knew the whole time? Cuomo comes clean: NY admits COVID nursing home deaths are 43% percent HIGHER than previously stated at nearly 13,000 - HOURS after AG's excoriating report accusing state of undercutting number by 50% worried about a state you don't live in??...I wonder why??....what was Trump's national strategy/plan?...is he still trying to think of one??....🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, concha said: Odds that this sanctimonious prick knew the whole time? Cuomo comes clean: NY admits COVID nursing home deaths are 43% percent HIGHER than previously stated at nearly 13,000 - HOURS after AG's excoriating report accusing state of undercutting number by 50% Yeah when the AG report used the word "underreported" that wasn't good. That suggests that they had the right number and reported a different one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Johnson and Johnson with an Covid vaccine that can be stored in the refrigerator for 3 months, interesting preventative rates. https://apple.news/AMeqtVznVQciqiKZDbyo4gw bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/01/29/5270143059125450676/308x174_MP4_5270143059125450676.mp4 Who cares where they died: Cuomo's shocking defense for undercounting nursing home deaths by 4,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, concha said: https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/01/29/5270143059125450676/308x174_MP4_5270143059125450676.mp4 Who cares where they died: Cuomo's shocking defense for undercounting nursing home deaths by 4,000 you plan on moving to N.Y.??....🤡 How did Trump's National Plan work out??......🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 12:00 PM, Newbie said: They didn’t, they released their data that shows in creating immunity, covid does a better job than their experimental drug 👍 I’m glad you agree: Troll was stating things that never happened. He’s kind of a moron anyway...he means well, but seriously what an idiot. Merck did not say anything regarding the virus being better than a vaccine - they simply said their vaccine shows poor results so they were dropping out from making one. Anything beyond that should be accompanied by a link from Troll. - On a personal note, I’m glad J&J got their vaccine ready for use authorization. That’s the one I’ll be taking when given the opportunity (I’m basically last in line), not that I don’t trust the mRNA vaccines but I’d rather see 1 year of performance from them to get a clearer picture of adverse risks...an adenovirus vaccine like J&J, sign me up right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 49 minutes ago, DownSouth said: I’m glad you agree: Troll was stating things that never happened. He’s kind of a moron anyway...he means well, but seriously what an idiot. Merck did not say anything regarding the virus being better than a their own experimental vaccine You must have missed the release of their data 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Fury as Biden administration admits 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and 40 other 'Gitmo' terror detainees could get the COVID vaccine next week - months BEFORE most Americans 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, concha said: Fury as Biden administration admits 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and 40 other 'Gitmo' terror detainees could get the COVID vaccine next week - months BEFORE most Americans Good, we don’t want those fuckers to die.... and go to heaven and get to fuck 42 virgins. What the fuck is the matter with you Conchita? Let those bastards die rotting in Gitmo. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouth Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 9 hours ago, Troll said: You must have missed the release of their data 😘 And you must have read some dogshit on bitchute and played yourself into saying things that never actually happened. It's okay, you can fix it by simply admitting you were wrong. Set yourself free bitchuter...you messed up, talked some untrue nonsense and now you're stuck in a hole...just let it go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DownSouth said: And you must have read some dogshit on bitchute and played yourself into saying things that never actually happened. It's okay, you can fix it by simply admitting you were wrong. Set yourself free bitchuter...you messed up, talked some untrue nonsense and now you're stuck in a hole...just let it go. REALLY triggered now that you missed it, how cute 😘 I could easily go back and link the news article, but not unless you bitch whine moan and falsely accuse just a bit more 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, DownSouth said: And you must have read some dogshit on bitchute and played yourself into saying things that never actually happened BTW: that sounds like 66 with his silly headlines...he starts whole threads doing just what you refer to here.... When you need to call out people getting played, or posting the garbage they got played with, then he is your huckleberry....🍓 take his latest thread for example "GOP Congresswoman Blamed Wildfires on Secret Jewish Space Laser" .... but I'm sure you believe that needs no questioning... probably about as self evident as a drug that has been discontinued, not actually working....🤪 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 but back on the vaccine track.... 01/29/21 • Big Pharma › Views 329 Deaths + 9,516 Other Injuries Reported Following COVID Vaccine, Latest CDC Data Show The numbers reflect the latest data available as of Jan. 22 from the CDC’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System website. As of Jan. 22, 329 deaths — a subset of 9,845 total adverse events — had been reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) following COVID-19 vaccinations. VAERS is the primary mechanism for reporting adverse vaccine reactions in the U.S. Reports submitted to VAERS require further investigation before confirmation can be made that an adverse event was linked to a vaccine. The reports, filed on the VAERS website between Dec. 14, 2020 and Jan. 22, describe outcomes ranging from “foaming at the mouth” to “massive heart attacks” to “did not recover.” According to the Washington Post, as of Jan. 29, 22 million people in the U.S. had received one or both doses of a COVID vaccine. So far, only the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been granted Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S. by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). By the FDA’s own definition, the vaccines are still considered experimental until fully licensed. Even with the updated injury numbers released today, the CDC said Thursday that safety data shows “everything is going well.” According to USA TODAY: “Early safety data from the first month of COVID-19 vaccination finds the shots are as safe as the studies suggested they’d be. States reporting the most deaths were: California (22), Florida (16), Ohio (18), New York (15) and KY (13). Most of the reports were from, or filed on behalf of people who had received only the first dose. About half of the people reporting had the Pfizer vaccine, the other half Moderna. The Moderna vaccine lot numbers associated with the highest number of deaths were: 025L20A (13 deaths), 037K20A (11 deaths) and 011J2A (10 deaths). For Pfizer, the lot numbers were: EK5730 (10 deaths), EJ1685 (11 deaths), EL0140 (15 deaths), EK 9231 (12 deaths) and EL1284 (11 deaths). Several deaths and multiple severe allergic reactions are under investigation in the U.S. and Europe. Last week, California health officials temporarily paused a large batch of Moderna vaccines due to a high number of allergic reactions, but reversed that decision a few days later. Anyone suffering from a serious injury will have little legal recourse because they will be directed to the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program which has rejected 90% of vaccine-injury claims over the past decade. On Jan. 3, Miami obstetrician Dr. Gregory Michael died after he suffered a hemorrhagic stroke. Michael died about two weeks after receiving Pfizer-BioNtech’s COVID vaccine. Although he became ill just three days after he got the shot, Pfizer said it didn’t think there was any direct connection to the vaccine. The New York Times quoted Dr. Jerry Spivak, a blood disorder expert at Johns Hopkins University, saying “I think it’s a medical certainty that the vaccine was related.” Officials in Orange County, California, are investigating the death of a 60-year-old healthcare worker who died Jan. 9, four days after receiving his second injection of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine. Tim Zook, an x-ray technologist at South Coast Global Medical Center in Santa Ana, was hospitalized on Jan. 5, several hours after being vaccinated. Zook’s wife, Rochelle Zook, told the Orange County Register that her husband’s health rapidly deteriorated over the next few days. She said she didn’t blame any pharmaceutical company and that people should still “take the vaccine — but the officials need to do more research. We need to know the cause.” Data about deaths following receipt of the experimental Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are also emerging from Israel, Norway, Portugal, Sweden and Switzerland. Norway launched an investigation into the vaccines after the Norwegian Medicines Agency received reports of 33 suspected adverse drug reactions with fatal outcomes following administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. Pharma and federal agencies attributed the majority of these cases to “coincidence.” “Coincidence is turning out to be quite lethal to COVID vaccine recipients,” said Children’s Health Defense (CHD) Chairman Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. “If the clinical trials are good predictors, the rate of coincidence is likely to increase dramatically after the second shot.” The clinical trials suggested that almost all the benefits of COVID vaccination and the vast majority of injuries were associated with the second dose. While the VAERS database numbers are sobering, according to a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study, the actual number of adverse events is likely significantly higher. VAERS is a passive surveillance system that relies on the willingness of individuals and professionals to submit reports voluntarily. In December, CHD and Kennedy wrote to former FDA director, Dr. David Kessler, co-chair of the COVID-19 Advisory Board and President Biden’s version of Operation Warp Speed. Kennedy told Kessler that VAERS has been an abject failure, with fewer than 1% of adverse events ever reported. A critic familiar with VAERS’ shortcomings bluntly condemned VAERS in The BMJ as “nothing more than window dressing, and a part of U.S. authorities’ systematic effort to reassure/deceive us about vaccine safety.” CHD is calling for complete transparency. The children’s health organization is asking Kessler and the federal government to release all of the data from the clinical trials and suspend COVID-19 vaccine use in any group not adequately represented in the clinical trials, including the elderly, frail and anyone with comorbidities. CHD is also asking for full transparency in post-marketing data that reports all health outcomes, including new diagnoses of autoimmune disorders, adverse events and deaths from COVID vaccines. -------------------------------------- For those whose actually pay attention to what they put in their body 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/28/2021 at 2:51 PM, Atticus Finch said: To answer concha's question: I'd do what the FDA and WHO said. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) advice for the public: Mythbusters FACT: Studies show hydroxychloroquine does not have clinical benefits in treating COVID-19 Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, a treatment for malaria, lupus erythematosus, and rheumatoid arthritis, has been under study as a possible treatment for COVID-19. Current data shows that this drug does not reduce deaths among hospitalised COVID-19 patients, nor help people with moderate disease.* The use of hydoxychloroquine and chloroquine is accepted as generally safe for patients with malaria and autoimmune diseases, but its use where not indicated and without medical supervision can cause serious side effects and should be avoided. FDA cautions against use of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for COVID-19 outside of the hospital setting or a clinical trial due to risk of heart rhythm problems July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure. PSSSSsssssst....you go right ahead with what some political boards said last july 👍 But here in the real world.... A new study posted in the American Journal of Medicine in January found that early treatment of coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine lowered the mortality rate for the disease. The study found that immediate use of HCQ, while the patient was still at home, showed significant benefits. This is just the latest study that shows the effectiveness of HCQ in treating the coronavirus. For the past several months the website c19study.com has been tracking the HCQ-coronavirus studies. According to c19study.com there have been 237 studies, 171 of which were peer reviewed that show 67% of patients improved in early treatment trials. Also today the Facebook Oversight Board announced it was overturning a previous case on the effectiveness of HCQ. Facebook’s previously removed a post on the use of hydroxychloroquine in France which it claimed, “contributes to the risk of imminent… physical harm.” Today Facebook announced this was a mistake. How many hundreds of thousands of victims were killed due to Dr. Fauci, the CDC and the tech giants’ false claims on hydroxychloroquine? --------------------------------------------- 🧐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Troll said: For those whose actually pay attention to what they put in their body 👍 329 deaths out of almost 23 million vaccinated. Or in other words it was .001% of people vaccinated. Do you know what a vaccine is? That's not a surefire "yes" that's for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/association-american-physicians-surgeons-aaps-182000674.html Association of American Physicians & Surgeons (AAPS) Sues the FDA to End Its Arbitrary Restrictions on Hydroxychloroquine June 2, 2020 HCQ has been approved as safe by the FDA for 65 years, and the CDC states on its website that "CDC has no limits on the use of hydroxychloroquine for the prevention of malaria." More than 150 million doses have been donated to the strategic national stockpile controlled by the federal government, but unjustified FDA restrictions limit its use to only hospitalized patients for whom a clinical study is unavailable. Hospitals are even returning HCQ to the stockpile because they are not able to use it effectively. "It is shocking that medical workers in Brazil will have access to HCQ as a prophylaxis while Americans are blocked by the FDA from accessing the same medication for the same use," observes AAPS Executive Director Jane Orient, M.D. "There is no legal or factual basis for the FDA to limit use of HCQ," states AAPS General Counsel Andrew Schlafly. "The FDA's restrictions on HCQ for Americans are completely indefensible in court." Many foreign nations, including China, India, South Korea, Costa Rica, United Arab Emirates, and Turkey, use HCQ for early treatment and prevention of COVID-19, AAPS points out. ... "FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn states that the FDA does not interfere with physicians' ability to prescribe HCQ, and yet at the same time the FDA denies access by millions of Americans to 150 million doses of it in the national stockpile," Schlafly adds. "This irrational hoarding by government is an abuse of power." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 But it's funny to see clowns like Newbie/Troll caution against a vaccine (with 90%+ efficacy rates) but promote the use of Hydroxochloroquine (67% efficacy from his source). These morons would rather die than admit that they were wrong or change their opinion one iota. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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