steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: What the hell was DV going to do WL O for 4 quarters besides get worn down late in the game? Their O would have done them no favors with the 3 and outs they would have had. Who said anything other than their offensive line wasn't as good as Carroll's? Please quote where I mentioned anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Who said anything other than their offensive line wasn't as good as Carroll's? Please quote where I mentioned anything else 👇🏽You clarified you were talking about Westlake v Duncanville 34 minutes ago, steeler01 said: They had a better O- Line cause they didn't face Duncanville. Allen did whatever they wanted to that defense. Did I mention that Guyer's offensive line sucked? Prosper made that unit look foolish DV D wasn’t gonna do crap for 4 quarters against WL offense. Hell they had trouble with NS young offense and OL I told you before DV best opportunity was to win a title this year, WL was in the other division and NS was young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 29 minutes ago, steeler01 said: He knows that. Why he plays dumb is beyond me 👇🏽This is factually not true. That’s the argument! If you can’t refute this with facts then move on. 13 hours ago, The Colonel said: I’m not the one trying to compare DVs home ass-whoopin’ by MD to Cen10’s close loss to MD. 😂 . Dude, you actually predicted DV would give MD a battle and even said MD was “overhyped” and “beatable”. And for all the crying you Texans do about CA being a two-school state, sure seems like TX is a two horse pasture. 😂. Its DV and NS in the championship just about every year. Except its really just a one horse state since DV can’t beat NS. So much for all the TX “depth” you guys like to spout off about. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Dekaney was crap This year? There's no way in hell they beat Carroll Dekaney was ranked Xcellent 20 and 23 in the nation by Maxpreps. #9 by Calpreps but if you say they are crap, I guess they’re crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, SeaShells21 said: Dekaney was ranked Xcellent 20 and 23 in the nation by Maxpreps. #9 by Calpreps but if you say they are crap, I guess they’re crap. That’s their “go to” when they don’t have facts to refute a claim. They say the team sucks. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Horsefly said: That’s their “go to” when they don’t have facts to refute a claim. They say the team sucks. Lol Except Dekaney actually sucked. They were a new school who won a fluke championship in a down year for other powers and hasn't been even remotely good since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Dekaney was ranked Xcellent 20 and 23 in the nation by Maxpreps. #9 by Calpreps but if you say they are crap, I guess they’re crap. Xcellent top 20 and calpreps are gospel I guess. Dekaney was Guyer. Easy path to a Ship. They avoided Skyline, Carroll etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Except Dekaney actually sucked. They were a new school who won a fluke championship in a down year for other powers and hasn't been even remotely good since. Not to mention the best teams were in the other division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Xcellent top 20 and calpreps are gospel I guess. Dekaney was Guyer. Easy path to a Ship. They avoided Skyline, Carroll etc Let me know when a real top 10 team loses to Klein Oak 38-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Let me know when a real top 10 team loses to Klein Oak 38-6 It looks like your “Texas List” Westlake lost to Klein Oak 38-28 but I guess that was one of the rare years they weren’t running Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Let me know when a real top 10 team loses to Klein Oak 38-6 They lost to Klein Oak by 32 and almost lost to College Park. Yet horsefly's claim is that they're legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 This appears to be an Apple to orange’s debate here since the playoff systems are totally different. Each system would appear to encourage what is being debated.The California system would profit any dominant program because of the winner take all conclusion. The Texas system appears to be designed to help schools into championship games by having two divisions for each class thus creating more opportunities 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: It looks like your “Texas List” Westlake lost to Klein Oak 38-28 but I guess that was one of the rare years they weren’t running Texas. Who cares. If I go back 20 years SJB, Centennial and MD lost to many teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: They lost to Klein Oak by 32 and almost lost to College Park. Yet horsefly's claim is that they're legit. They're legit to support his view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ararar said: This appears to be an Apple to orange’s debate here since the playoff systems are totally different. Each system would appear to encourage what is being debated.The California system would profit any dominant program because of the winner take all conclusion. The Texas system appears to be designed to help schools into championship games by having two divisions for each class thus creating more opportunities With the 6A classification being any school over 2200; this system is designed to keep the 4000, 5000 student schools together in Division 1 and and 2000, 3000 schools together in Division 2 during the playoffs but it doesn’t always work like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Who cares. If I go back 20 years SJB, Centennial and MD lost to many teams It’s nothing. You just seemed to be saying earlier that seven teams run Texas. I was giving you an example of one of your seven teams losing that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, steeler01 said: They're legit to support his view This legitimizes their ENTIRE season, not just a game or two. It really is that simple. I’ll take titles and rankings over your subjective assessment rankings # School Ovr. Str. +/- 1 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey) 11-0 47.7 -- 2 Trinity (Louisville) 14-0 42.0 -- 3 De La Salle (Concord) 13-1 43.2 -- 4 Carmel 14-1 47.7 -- 5 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney) 12-0 32.5 -- 6 Lake Travis (Austin) 16-0 38.7 -- 7 Warren Central (Indianapolis) 11-1 44.5 -- 8 Manatee (Bradenton) 13-2 46.3 -- 9 Armwood (Seffner) 15-0 40.3 -- 10 Santa Margarita (Rancho Santa Margarita) 13-2 51.5 -- 11 Maryville 15-0 37.0 -- 12 Ensworth (Nashville) 12-1 38.9 -- 13 Plant (Tampa) 14-1 42.5 -- 14 Southlake Carroll (Southlake) 16-0 44.6 -- 15 St. Ignatius (Cleveland) 13-2 46.8 -- 16 Vista Murrieta (Murrieta) 9-5 39.9 -- 17 Westlake (Westlake Village) 14-1 41.4 -- 18 Grayson (Loganville) 15-0 37.2 -- 19 Norland (Miami) 15-0 36.4 -- 20 San Clemente 12-2 46.2 -- 21 Prattville 12-2 38.7 -- 22 Olive Branch 15-0 38.9 -- 23 Dekaney (Houston) 14-2 42.0 -- 24 Skyline (Dallas) 14-1 38.8 -- 25 Aledo 14-2 32.7 -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: It’s nothing. You just seemed to be saying earlier that seven teams run Texas. I was giving you an example of one of your seven teams losing that year. They play in the finals annually. 20 years in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: This legitimizes their ENTIRE season, not just a game or two. It really is that simple. I’ll take titles and rankings over your subjective assessment rankings # School Ovr. Str. +/- 1 Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey) 11-0 47.7 -- 2 Trinity (Louisville) 14-0 42.0 -- 3 De La Salle (Concord) 13-1 43.2 -- 4 Carmel 14-1 47.7 -- 5 Our Lady of Good Counsel (Olney) 12-0 32.5 -- 6 Lake Travis (Austin) 16-0 38.7 -- 7 Warren Central (Indianapolis) 11-1 44.5 -- 8 Manatee (Bradenton) 13-2 46.3 -- 9 Armwood (Seffner) 15-0 40.3 -- 10 Santa Margarita (Rancho Santa Margarita) 13-2 51.5 -- 11 Maryville 15-0 37.0 -- 12 Ensworth (Nashville) 12-1 38.9 -- 13 Plant (Tampa) 14-1 42.5 -- 14 Southlake Carroll (Southlake) 16-0 44.6 -- 15 St. Ignatius (Cleveland) 13-2 46.8 -- 16 Vista Murrieta (Murrieta) 9-5 39.9 -- 17 Westlake (Westlake Village) 14-1 41.4 -- 18 Grayson (Loganville) 15-0 37.2 -- 19 Norland (Miami) 15-0 36.4 -- 20 San Clemente 12-2 46.2 -- 21 Prattville 12-2 38.7 -- 22 Olive Branch 15-0 38.9 -- 23 Dekaney (Houston) 14-2 42.0 -- 24 Skyline (Dallas) 14-1 38.8 -- 25 Aledo 14-2 32.7 -- That's assuming I believe in that ranking system. Do i believe Aledo is a top 25 team? Never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, steeler01 said: They play in the finals annually. 20 years in a row Even if they may, they are all in close games every year, consistently, against different teams. Does that not equal to depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Even if they may, they are all in close games every year, consistently, against different teams. Does that not equal to depth? I just showed you close games against sjb. I guess that means depth right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, steeler01 said: That's assuming I believe in that ranking system. Do i believe Aledo is a top 25 team? Never I don’t care what you believe in. Their title is more relevant than you mentioning they lost to KO early in the season. Hell even Bama lost to A&M early it doesn’t make their title run irrelevant now. I use rankings as one of many sources of evidence of a teams success and being “legit” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I just showed you close games against sjb. I guess that means depth right Servite, Bishop Amat, JSerra, and Santa Margarita. Yes, that is nice but I have already listed 22 different Texas teams that have played the “Texas List” close over just the past six seasons. [Page 5] That’s just against Katy, Carroll and Westlake. I still have Euless Trinity and North Shore to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 13 hours ago, HurricaneNick said: You gotta stop brother, they aren’t understanding this. If DV played MD how Cen10 did we’d be hearing much different talk. DV was tied in TX biggest classifications state championship in the 4th quarter. They had more transfers than MD and Cen10 this year too. (They’re very quiet about that) DV is just a regular ol public school that got a lot better when samples showed up and TX is super deep! 😂 Even if the state championship has been the same two teams 3 times in the last 4 years! #depth #txbest So where was this talk when SLC was doing the same??? Or Lake Travis??? Or currently Westlake??? Or Allen??) Sheesh y'all reach sometimes. It's simply Northshore's and Duncanville's time. That won't last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 9, 2022 Report Share Posted January 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Servite, Bishop Amat, JSerra, and Santa Margarita. Yes, that is nice but I have already listed 22 different Texas teams that have played the “Texas List” close over just the past six seasons. [Page 5] That’s just against Katy, Carroll and Westlake. I still have Euless Trinity and North Shore to do. The Texas list is 7. Your list is 2 Should we add DLS and Centennial since you mentioned them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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