954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The Cen10 game Why? Both beat Cen10 in close games. One team traveled thousands of miles? If anything that gives IMG more reason since they're also undefeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, 954gator said: I'm not even trying to say SJB couldn't maybe beat IMG or even maybe give Gorman a better game in a rematch, BUT based on the results (which is what calpreps should be doing)...having SJB and MD 2/3 shows it's bias. ..of course the fact that they split their series 1-1 and MD had one less loss, had nothing to do with it having STA ranked ahead of Cen10 shows they hate the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, 954gator said: I'm not even trying to say SJB couldn't maybe beat IMG or even maybe give Gorman a better game in a rematch, BUT based on the results (which is what calpreps should be doing)...having SJB and MD 2/3 shows it's bias. MD and SJB are propped up by SOS. They have arguably the toughest league+playoff gauntlet to run and SJB had an amazing preleague slate of games giving them the highest SOS in the CalPreps era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Forget about STA. They have 2 losses and shouldn't be in the top 3 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, dntn31 said: MD and SJB are propped up by SOS. They have arguably the toughest league+playoff gauntlet to run and SJB had an amazing preleague slate of games giving them the highest SOS in the CalPreps era. MD and SJB are propped up because all those teams start so high and hold each other up playing each other... none of them even have to be that good to do that, they just have to all play each other. Its a CA guy with a CA site rating CA teams, of course they are a bit embellished compared to everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: MD and SJB are propped up because all those teams start so high and hold each other up playing each other... none of them even have to be that good to do that, they just have to all play each other. Its a CA guy with a CA site rating CA teams, of course they are a bit embellished compared to everyone else. CAs style also plays well into CP... a lot of points. If CP were ranking Alabama against Oregon a few years back, Oregon wouldve been ranked higher bc they beat teams by more... they played in 56-21 type games, while Alabama beat a team just as soundly 31-10... although the MoV isnt the same, its a similar win bc its harder to score on Bama. CP likes MoV to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: MD and SJB are propped up because all those teams start so high and hold each other up playing each other... I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, dntn31 said: I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. Dont want to be smoked out again eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Dont want to be smoked out again eh? Sure, go get a degree in Computer Science, properly understand how linear regression algorithms work and then reverse engineer the CalPreps ratings and we can have an informed discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dntn31 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Some footage for those that didn't get to watch last night. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 hours ago, noonereal said: THE cA bowl games need a correction it's ridiculous that DLS always gets in without being tested as the south Cal teams go through a war. I wish there was a "this is stupid" option next to "like" option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, 954gator said: What I mean is gorman is #1 because they beat the best in California. How else would you explain MD and SJB both with losses ranked over undefeated IMG? How do you explain 2-loss STA ahead of East? CP is entire body of work, not just W/L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Pops said: How do you explain 2-loss STA ahead of East? CP is entire body of work, not just W/L You can't. I'm with you on this Pops. STA Is highly overrated. Their QB sucks, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Pops said: How do you explain 2-loss STA ahead of East? CP is entire body of work, not just W/L Sure you could make that argument as well. No problem. I'm only talking about the top as that's what's usually discussed the most. We could pick out a bunch of stuff if we go down the list (as you could any poll). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, 954gator said: I'm not even trying to say SJB couldn't maybe beat IMG or even maybe give Gorman a better game in a rematch, BUT based on the results (which is what calpreps should be doing)...having SJB and MD 2/3 shows it's bias. It does not you asking the question about SJB instead of STA shows yours STA is #2 in the country with tight losses to #1 and #3 that was avenged with vengeance STA is #7 in the country with losses to #1 and #188 you should be asking why they're ranked ahead of undefeateds Dematha, desire, St Joseph's Prep, Cass Tech, Bingham, East, or Trinity who all have better wins also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: You can't. I'm with you on this Pops. STA Is highly overrated. Their QB sucks, too Lol Canes in that head already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 57 minutes ago, dntn31 said: Sure, go get a degree in Computer Science, properly understand how linear regression algorithms work and then reverse engineer the CalPreps ratings and we can have an informed discussion. He is incapable of understanding yiu don't know how long and persistent he holds his hands over his ears and eyes (but not mouth) on this issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, Pops said: It does not you asking the question about SJB instead of STA shows yours STA is #2 in the country with tight losses to #1 and #3 that was avenged with vengeance STA is #7 in the country with losses to #1 and #188 you should be asking why they're ranked ahead of undefeateds Dematha, desire, St Joseph's Prep, Cass Tech, Bingham, East, or Trinity who all have better wins also I was comparing Sjb to iMg. Let me make this clear...STA doesn't deserve to be ranked top 5 either. Don't know where that is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Lol where did I bring up STA in this thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, 954gator said: Lol Canes in that head already! Make an argument for them over East 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Make an argument for them over East Can't. It's what I was trying to say. You could argue a bunch of teams should be higher than STA. especially the undefeateds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Make an argument for SJB over IMG or Desoto etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 If we are ranking the top 5 resumes than STA wouldn't be in the top 5. If we are ranking just the best 5 teams than STA would be in the top 5. There's a difference ....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Mjd33 said: If we are ranking the top 5 resumes than STA wouldn't be in the top 5. If we are ranking just the best 5 teams than STA would be in the top 5. There's a difference ....... An actual ranking is the best teams, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Mjd33 said: If we are ranking the top 5 resumes than STA wouldn't be in the top 5. If we are ranking just the best 5 teams than STA would be in the top 5. There's a difference ....... Agree with what you're saying to an extent. But since when can teams go 0-2 against the best on their resume and still finish top 5 with no significant wins? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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