AztecPadre Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 12 hours ago, Texasball said: California always has excuse This year SJB played the wrong QB vs STA Even though DLS has ran that veer offense for 50 years - they can't execute it properly early in the season Custer rushed for 200 plus on y'all so looks to me like it ran just fine. Y'all got lucky that by a hair Asiasi doesn't catch that ball for the winning td. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB bos Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Texasball said: California always has excuse This year SJB played the wrong QB vs STA Even though DLS has ran that veer offense for 50 years - they can't execute it properly early in the season Wasn't the wrong QB DJ wasn't ahead of the Sr. at the time Wk Zero.......5 games of shared snaps and now onto week 15 is a different story. Week zero loss was in inability of the wrs to catch 5 potential td passes inside the 10 yrd line an end zone. The O and QB generated over 250 yds plenty to win that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Texasball said: Yall can't even stack them scholarship recruited prep boy catholic vomit teams enough to simply beat one of our 1st round loser public school teams. Why should we travel 1000 miles to play puppies when we got pit bulls just around the corner? Texas reaction when asked to play out of state 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Puleease! SJB would smoke STA right now and DLS would’ve trounced Trinity if they had played later in the year, also. And, yes, Cen10 is STILL a top 10-15 team in the nation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 These recruited up private schools have soft players. They don't in general, have the same need to be hungry that players on a rural public school has. They can be far more talented, yet, by the start of the 3rd quarter, you can see in their eyes that they'll just be glad to get off the field and away from the hard hitting hungry team standing across from them. The one that relentlessly tries to destroy them each and every play, and seems to get stronger and stronger rather than tired like they do. It's cute watching the private school alumni argue back and forth as if their teams are tough and hungry too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: yet, by the start of the 3rd quarter, you can see in their eyes that they'll just be glad to get off the field It sounds like CoalQuit to me ... lol u guys r known to give up in the 4th quarter ...I can tell u this tho .. the private schools would never have a kid on the team who’s on the offensive line that is 5”3 172 lbs Lol no wonder why u guys don’t play us ....to many lawsuits would be filled 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 10 hours ago, ORabidOne said: Says the FIVE teams out of 2000, that play competitive football? Actually the CIF comprises around 1275 schools. Not all field teams. Even with the private schools poaching a lot of talent, in a state with the numbers, liberal transfer rules for public schools, and in general very large schools, shouldn't there would be a dozen Cen-10's, capable of playing with the "Best teams money can buy?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 37 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: These recruited up private schools have soft players. They don't in general, have the same need to be hungry that players on a rural public school has. They can be far more talented, yet, by the start of the 3rd quarter, you can see in their eyes that they'll just be glad to get off the field and away from the hard hitting hungry team standing across from them. The one that relentlessly tries to destroy them each and every play, and seems to get stronger and stronger rather than tired like they do. It's cute watching the private school alumni argue back and forth as if their teams are tough and hungry too. Not sure about that soft part. Watch DLS during the late 90's on. They were tough as any team anywhere. Still are. Just not as gifted. Bishop Gorman was as physical as Bosco, the real one in Ramsey ;-). I still believe one of DLS's major weapons was their toughness. They flat beat the fuck out of some pretty rough customers along the way to winning 151 in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Ararar said: Texas reaction when asked to play out of state Can you blame them? They lost when they traveled to WA. They lost the two times they traveled to NV. They lost when they traveled to OK. Once bitten, twice shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 since 2003 - California has had a losing season playing out of state games 6 times - Cal Preps. Texas has none during the same time frame. - Cal Preps 3 different season during that span Texas played more out of state games in individual years.- Cal Preps For all the talk about playing OOS games California has only played Florida teams 26 times, OH 9 times, PA 7 times, GA 2 times, Texas 31 times, Louisiana 2 times. You have losing record vs FL, TX, GA - Cal Preps - Texas has played Florida schools 42 times since 2003 - Cal preps More than half the games played out of state all time have been played against Nevada teams 3362 - The vast majority of all games played out of state have been meaningless games across the country! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 3 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: These recruited up private schools have soft players. They don't in general, have the same need to be hungry that players on a rural public school has. I can understand the logic you invoke but maybe you do not look holistically? For example, which group is apt to have a higher expectation of success? Which group is apt to have better guidance on how to achieve? Which group is likely from a more disciplined background? All factors that would result in a player getting closest to their potential. Then we have the generics of desire. You can have a "Bergen elite" kid that was born with an uncompromising will and you can have a country kid that is a natural lump. Or vise versa. I recall back in the 70-80's, before the era of daddyball. Guess who were the big 3 in NJ? DBP, SJR and BC. Why was that? Well, it seemed to me obvious at the time. The kids that went to these privates were from families that were engaged. You are paying that kind of money for school, you likely had higher expectations placed on your child. You had to evolved a better work ethic to meet the family standards. The privates were not getting run of the field kids. These were kids that got closer to their potential because of hands on parenting. So, I am not disagreeing with you or agreeing. I am saying that it just may be that the recruited up kids may be less soft than the long bus ride kids because of circumstances you did not appear to consider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: Can you blame them? They lost when they traveled to WA. They lost the two times they traveled to NV. They lost when they traveled to OK. Once bitten, twice shy. We lost in OT in WA vs maybe the best team they have ever produced - Meanwhile got hammered by 21 vs Desoto and got knocked out of the 3rd Round of the playoffs by SLC - Neither of the Texas teams won state Trinity got beat in Tulsa this year - They also got beat at home by TX 5A school who is not unbeaten. SLC - has won their 2 games played in Oklahoma beating Tulsa Union at their home stadium and also beating Broken Arrow at their home stadium Texas teams have beaten a bevy of State Champs over the years! Would you like me to start naming them? I can start with the best program in California and your big boy state champ DLS from 2015! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 These recruited up and scholarship schools except many many players who wouldn't be admitted to the school if they didn't play football due to academic reasons and the majority of the time they couldn't afford it anyways. This the nasty dirty secret of every so called major private power in this country!!!! I know this information to be fact!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Puleease! SJB would smoke STA right now and DLS would’ve trounced Trinity if they had played later in the year, also. And, yes, Cen10 is STILL a top 10-15 team in the nation. should've could've would've - This is how they roll in cali DLS been running the split back veer since the beginning of time and they magically can't execute in early season games when playing teams from OOS- It always is clicking the very next week when they hang half hundred on another cali team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Puleease! SJB would smoke STA right now and DLS would’ve trounced Trinity if they had played later in the year, also. And, yes, Cen10 is STILL a top 10-15 team in the nation. Cent10 plays silky soft defense - they can't defend air - for them it's not a one off year on defense - It's every damn year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Puleease! SJB would smoke STA right now and DLS would’ve trounced Trinity if they had played later in the year, also. And, yes, Cen10 is STILL a top 10-15 team in the nation. This is all very unfounded and unable to be proved. What was proved are results on the field. Some people like to deal in hypotheticals when their preconceived notions don't pan out like they thought they would on the field. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 Trinity has played 8 same year state champs and beat 5 of them Assuming Tulsa Union wins the title game this week in Oklahoma Trinity will have played 8 same year state champs since 2008 2008 beat John Curtis LA - only game Curtis loss 2009 beat Bingham UT - Only game Bingham loss 2010 beat Shiloh Christian Ar - only game Shiloh loss 2012 - Got beat by Bellevue WA by TD on the Road in OT 2013 - Got beat by Jenks OK 27-23 - Jenks won state going 14-0 2013 - Beat Bentonville AR on Road - Bentonville won the AR state championship - 2013 Trinity west 11-3 2015 - Beat DLS CA- Holding the California state champs to fewest points they scored all year. DLS did not lose again! 2017 - Got beat by Tulsa Union - I believe Tulsa Union will win Oklahoma on Dec 1 During this time Trinity won one state championship themselves - Played 8 OOS champs and has beat 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB bos Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, NYHSFAN33 said: This is all very unfounded and unable to be proved. What was proved are results on the field. Some people like to deal in hypotheticals when their preconceived notions don't pan out like they thought they would on the field. ON the field 9 of 10 DRIVES WERE 3 and OUTS. 46 TOTAL yds 1st half 2 of 5 20yds.... 2nd half was even worse -2 yds passing 39yds rushing ...+10 in OT The one 2nd drive started with the Re-Al int two 15yd penalties to get to the redzone sacks on 2nd and 3rd resulted in FG On the field SJB had over 250yds enough to win that game. It was the 5 potential TD drops by the WR's inside the redzone/endzone and Two missed FG that cost them that game. Since then the have Replaced the #1's starting QB RB WR and K,.... While adding Sal Spina who sat out wk Zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 27 minutes ago, BB bos said: ON the field 9 of 10 DRIVES WERE 3 and OUTS. 46 TOTAL yds 1st half 2 of 5 20yds.... 2nd half was even worse -2 yds passing 39yds rushing ...+10 in OT The one 2nd drive started with the Re-Al int two 15yd penalties to get to the redzone sacks on 2nd and 3rd resulted in FG On the field SJB had over 250yds enough to win that game. It was the 5 potential TD drops by the WR's inside the redzone/endzone and Two missed FG that cost them that game. Since then the have Replaced the #1's starting QB RB WR and K,.... While adding Sal Spina who sat out wk Zero. 5 dropped TD passes means your WRs aren't as good as you make them out to be. #facts 2 missed FGs means your kicker isn't as good as he needed to be. #facts Tier 1 teams don't drop 5 TDs and miss two FGs against a team with a pedestrian offense. #morefacts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB bos Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 The kicker of that game 88 is no longer the kicker he is the holder for 84 now. The Sr #1 wr left the building two wks ago as the new QB stopped throwing to him. The soph and Jr Wr's are now in charge of the show. The wk zero O was run based for QB and RB Flowers who are now both out for the season. The O is now completely changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 19 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: Tier 1 teams don't drop 5 TDs and miss two FGs against a team with a pedestrian offense. #morefacts Exactly. SJB has not been tier 1 until they got their act together last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Exactly. SJB has not been tier 1 until they got their act together last week. Samantha the Bishop should be Tier 1 in your warped reality as well. Might as well put DLS, Cardinal Gibbons, SFA, and host of others up there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 47 minutes ago, BB bos said: ON the field 9 of 10 DRIVES WERE 3 and OUTS. 46 TOTAL yds 1st half 2 of 5 20yds.... 2nd half was even worse -2 yds passing 39yds rushing ...+10 in OT The one 2nd drive started with the Re-Al int two 15yd penalties to get to the redzone sacks on 2nd and 3rd resulted in FG On the field SJB had over 250yds enough to win that game. It was the 5 potential TD drops by the WR's inside the redzone/endzone and Two missed FG that cost them that game. Since then the have Replaced the #1's starting QB RB WR and K,.... While adding Sal Spina who sat out wk Zero. Was the Samuel Jr. block from the outside the PK's fault too? All this excitement over SJB's D while STA got blanked by Centennial, AZ 12-0. STA this year has made multiple D's look like the 85 Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Texasball said: since 2003 - California has had a losing season playing out of state games 6 times - Cal Preps. Texas has none during the same time frame. - Cal Preps 3 different season during that span Texas played more out of state games in individual years.- Cal Preps For all the talk about playing OOS games California has only played Florida teams 26 times, OH 9 times, PA 7 times, GA 2 times, Texas 31 times, Louisiana 2 times. You have losing record vs FL, TX, GA - Cal Preps - Texas has played Florida schools 42 times since 2003 - Cal preps More than half the games played out of state all time have been played against Nevada teams 3362 - The vast majority of all games played out of state have been meaningless games across the country! 😂 listen here Tex California has played more than 6000 OOS games per CP while safe space Texas has 1300.in fact you could add up Texas,Florida,Ohio and Georgia OOS games and it still wouldn’t reach the 6000 California has played.....just stay in your safe space we are sympathetic to your anxieties 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, CCBlackhatter said: Samantha the Bishop should be Tier 1 in your warped reality as well. Might as well put DLS, Cardinal Gibbons, SFA, and host of others up there too. The Bishop does not have a relevant win good enough to offset their two losses which is a Tier 1 requirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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