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40 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

How do we REALLY know how good numbers 2-4 are. They've never played elite OOS competition. ET has my respect. 

ET is 3-5 vs Allen and 4-3 vs SLC. SLC is 4-2 vs Allen.

katy has only played SLC and they are 1-1. I question Katy if anyone, the others not.

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Just now, The Colonel said:

I hear ya on that.  Corona Centennial should be way ahead of Mission Viejo on a dynasty list!

In the “Max Prep” era list for dominant CA programs, Cen10 is right behind DLS and ahead of MV by a few spots.  Interesting how MV landed on that other list.

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1 minute ago, On2whls said:

In the “Max Prep” era list for dominant CA programs, Cen10 is right behind DLS and ahead of MV by a few spots.  Interesting how MV landed on that other list.

That seems right to me.  MV was just recently moved back to D1, while Cen10 has been slugging it out against DLS, Mater Dei and St John Bosco for years. 

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20 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Not at all. IMO there's no other way to know how good a team like Allen (and the entire state of TX for that matter) REALLY is without being able to compare their OOS wins vs the OOS wins of other comparable "elite" teams. A few years back IMG, BG and Liberty NV all proved that the state was not THAT and may be overrated in this modern-age of hsfb. Not questioning the pomp and circumstance of TX hsfb, it's the best. Just that there's no better proof than OOS wins vs other Top 100 teams. And TX has one good win in the last five years (DLS). 

 

I'll recap the Desoto, cedar hill and westlake seasons for you those years.

2015

Wk 1:  Desoto 26 Martin 46

wk 2: Desoto 29, IMG 47.

yep, IMG really showed Texas!Desoto finished 6-6 that yr.

2016

westlake 14, liberty 21

liberty 32, corona centennial 49

in two games vs lake travis

weslatke 10, lake Travis 100!

yep, Liberty really showed texas!

BG 44, cedar hill 14

desoto 33, cedar hill 18

desoto 55, cedar hill 41 

Perspective.  

 

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11 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

 

I'll recap the Desoto, cedar hill and westlake seasons for you those years.

2015

Wk 1:  Desoto 26 Martin 46

wk 2: Desoto 29, IMG 47.

yep, IMG really showed Texas!Desoto finished 6-6 that yr.

2016

westlake 14, liberty 21

liberty 32, corona centennial 49

in two games vs lake travis

weslatke 10, lake Travis 100!

yep, Liberty really showed texas!

BG 44, cedar hill 14

desoto 33, cedar hill 18

desoto 55, cedar hill 41 

Perspective.  

 

You beat me to it.  Our State champ don't lose OOS.  A team lose  OOS they get worked in State.  Many times beating OOS teams and still getting worked in Texas.  Like ET did.  

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Let me continue this Top 10 and kill the suspense ..... (IMG is actually #2 behind DLS, but obviously they haven't been around long enough)

 

When you start seeing how many CA teams are around the top, you realize why its called CALPreps ...

You guys realize to see this... All you have to do is go to CalPreps.com... This isnt new.

11. Corona Centennial CA

12. St. Edward OH

13(tie). Mater Dei CA

13(tie). Union (Tulsa) OK

15. Bingham UT

16(tie). Hoover AL

16(tie). St. Thomas Aquinas FL

18. Jenks OK

19. Trinity (Louisville) KY

20. DeSoto TX

21. Archbishop Moeller OH

22. St. Joseph Regional NJ

23. Longview TX

24. St. Ignatius OH

25(tie). Lake Travis TX

25(tie). Aledo TX

27. Cedar Hill TX

28(tie). Carmel IN

28(tie). Long Beach Poly CA

30. Hamilton AZ

31. Maryville TN

32(tie). Elder OH

32(tie). Westfield TX (really? Kind of surprising)

34. St. John Bosco CA

35(tie). Eden Prairie MN

35(tie). Byrnes SC

37. Armwood FL

38. Ben Davis IN

39(tie). Central Catholic (Pittsburgh) PA

39(tie). South Panola MS

41. St. Joseph's Prep PA

42(tie). North Shore TX

42(tie). Highland Park TX

44. Bergen Catholic NJ

45. Rockhurst MO

46. Miami Central FL

47(tie). Mentor OH

47(tie). Center Grove IN

49. Wayne OH

50. Westlake TX

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6 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

Let me continue this Top 10 and kill the suspense ..... (IMG is actually #2 behind DLS, but obviously they haven't been around long enough)

 

When you start seeing how many CA teams are around the top, you realize why its called CALPreps ...

You guys realize to see this... All you have to do is go to CalPreps.com... This isnt new.

11. Corona Centennial CA

12. St. Edward OH

13(tie). Mater Dei CA

13(tie). Union (Tulsa) OK

15. Bingham UT

16(tie). Hoover AL

16(tie). St. Thomas Aquinas FL

18. Jenks OK

19. Trinity (Louisville) KY

20. DeSoto TX

21. Archbishop Moeller OH

22. St. Joseph Regional NJ

23. Longview TX

24. St. Ignatius OH

25(tie). Lake Travis TX

25(tie). Aledo TX

27. Cedar Hill TX

28(tie). Carmel IN

28(tie). Long Beach Poly CA

30. Hamilton AZ

31. Maryville TN

32(tie). Elder OH

32(tie). Westfield TX (really? Kind of surprising)

34. St. John Bosco CA

35(tie). Eden Prairie MN

35(tie). Byrnes SC

37. Armwood FL

38. Ben Davis IN

39(tie). Central Catholic (Pittsburgh) PA

39(tie). South Panola MS

41. St. Joseph's Prep PA

42(tie). North Shore TX

42(tie). Highland Park TX

44. Bergen Catholic NJ

45. Rockhurst MO

46. Miami Central FL

47(tie). Mentor OH

47(tie). Center Grove IN

49. Wayne OH

50. Westlake TX

What the hell are you talking about? Ohio has more teams on this list than CA and TX has 12 of the 50.Maybe it’s really TX preps

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20 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Bottom line: TX is 1-3 in its last four relevant OOS games. Not a good look for the supposed 'top' hsfb state in America. Time for the 'power' publics to put up or shut up, and start getting some quality wins vs the teams that matter. TX will never spawn another MNC team without these meaningful wins. If MNCs don't matter, feel free to stay the course. It's your prerogative. 

What about Hoover during that time, forget about them?  If liberty was relevant so was ECA in 2016.  Both of those teams went on to win state. 

So to recap:  BG, IMG went undefeated and BG won state BG the MNC.  Liberty was runner up, DLS won state and so did Hoover and ECA. Meanwhile none of the Texas teams did and they went 3-3. A matter of fact none of the Texas teams played in the state championship those years.   

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45 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

 

I'll recap the Desoto, cedar hill and westlake seasons for you those years.

2015

Wk 1:  Desoto 26 Martin 46

wk 2: Desoto 29, IMG 47.

yep, IMG really showed Texas!Desoto finished 6-6 that yr.

2016

westlake 14, liberty 21

liberty 32, corona centennial 49

in two games vs lake travis

weslatke 10, lake Travis 100!

yep, Liberty really showed texas!

BG 44, cedar hill 14

desoto 33, cedar hill 18

desoto 55, cedar hill 41 

Perspective.  

 

Quite the spin job.

Not saying I agree with GSB, because hes wrong... Texas is the #1 HSFB state and their top teams will play with and beat anyone... But...

 yet ...

2015: (heres 3 instances of DeSoto showing they can play with and come within a point of some of the best in TX)

IMG 47, DeSoto 29 (+18)

(TX #3) Allen 41, DeSoto 40 (+1)

(TX #9) Mansfield 35, DeSoto 21 (+14)

(TX #10) Cibolo Steele 35, DeSoto 33 (+2)

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2016:

Liberty NV 21, Westlake TX 14 ... I dont see how you defend this... Liberty isnt some powerhouse, they arent BG ... Westlake was 11-3 and a large class Quarterfinalist, beat Katy the week before they lose to Liberty, IN TEXAS... Their only other 2 losses were to the eventual clear TX #1 and State Champ Lake Travis ... Westlake actually beat the team that handed Lake Travis their only loss...

And Cen10 CA beating Liberty by 17 is a victory for TX?

 

Yeah BG 44, Cedar Hill 14 ...

DeSoto was the #2 team in Texas ... Finishing 16-0 winning State ...

And they were in a fight that 2nd game vs CHill... BG also beat DeSoto by 2× as many points as DeSoto did the 1st time... In fact BG beat CHill by more than DeSoto did BOTH TIMES COMBINED. 

 

 

Its easy to spin this shit.

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16 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Bottom line: TX is 1-3 in its last four relevant OOS games. Not a good look for the supposed 'top' hsfb state in America. Time for the 'power' publics to put up or shut up, and start getting some quality wins vs the teams that matter. TX will never spawn another MNC team without these meaningful wins. If MNCs don't matter, feel free to stay the course. It's your prerogative. 

So i guess you weren't a fan of katy's schedule win they won the MNC back in 2015, huh?

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10 minutes ago, Ararar said:

What the hell are you talking about? Ohio has more teams on this list than CA and TX has 12 of the 50.Maybe it’s really TX preps

Eh 4 Top 13.

 

Interesting, TX has 4 of the top 6, and not another til #19.

Texas does seem to have a lot... Wow. And Westfield?

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21 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Bottom line: TX is 1-3 in its last four relevant OOS games. Not a good look for the supposed 'top' hsfb state in America. Time for the 'power' publics to put up or shut up, and start getting some quality wins vs the teams that matter. TX will never spawn another MNC team without these meaningful wins. If MNCs don't matter, feel free to stay the course. It's your prerogative. 

I guess this is the type message someone from NJ would post after their state champion lost 2 OOS games last year including one of the most embarrassing defeats in high school OOS history....It's like we ain't worth a shit in NJ, but let me bust your chops about your state.

Schedule a damn game in TX, Miss Matchmaker....don't be a pussy.

No. 1 Mater Dei (CA) Crushes No. 34 Bergen Catholic (NJ) 62-14

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