Ararar Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Texasball said: You act like these schools have dominated our state like DLS and couple of other cali privates. Where has Duncanville been the last 10 years? Only one school has dominated and it’s domination has been limited to one region of the state.Just like every other state the vast majority of California is cyclical in its teams that rise to the top.Where was SJB 10 years ago ? MD was an also ran just a few short years ago. i just don’t get the vitriol for private schools.They haven’t broken any rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, On2whls said: Whether or not you or anyone else likes it, even once pure HS football, now has a business aspect to it. MD, SJB (and there will be others) are simply doing what successful businesses do, and that is to leverage the advantages they have available to them, to achieve desired results. Sucks for fans that would like to see more competitive public schools in CA but ther’s no turning back now. Are you saying all these players are employees of MD, SJB and other similar models and their goal is knocking out all the remaining Ace Hardware's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 "Amazon" High School Football, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, On2whls said: Whether or not you or anyone else likes it, even once pure HS football, now has a business aspect to it. MD, SJB (and there will be others) are simply doing what successful businesses do, and that is to leverage the advantages they have available to them, to achieve desired results. Sucks for fans that would like to see more competitive public schools in CA but ther’s no turning back now. The thing is some publics are competitive and got better. CDM is a great example of a school that's benefited from this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 Exactly. Texas and Florida have death they California can only wish it had. California is dominated by a small handful of schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted August 2, 2019 Report Share Posted August 2, 2019 but don't get me wrong, those schools are great football teams. But they're not a true representation of a high school football team because all they are is recruit up athlete factories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Yes. ARARAR should have included all the above schools in his example. Most of us got the gist. But spelling it out for you. The enrollment in all those schools makes for big advantages in talent on campus. That’s why they are in class 6A division 1. Representing the biggest schools in the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, bigrobstercraws said: The thing is some publics are competitive and got better. CDM is a great example of a school that's benefited from this. Keep in mind my point of reference is being good enough to compete for the Open SBG. Folsom’s got the junior bowl covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Texasball said: There is slight difference...They play in league with roughly 250 schools that have the same basic opportunity. You act like these schools have dominated our state like DLS and couple of other cali privates. Where has Duncanville been the last 10 years? That's not true at all. How many Texas schools have the enrollment of Allen and are one H.S. towns(The answer is none)? It doesn't take a great coach to win at Allen nor NorthShore IMO. Duncanville is a little different, I think it just takes the right coach to acquire the talent from that area(Samples does an excellent job of attracting talent wherever he goes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: That's not true at all. How many Texas schools have the enrollment of Allen and are one H.S. towns(The answer is none)? It doesn't take a great coach to win at Allen nor NorthShore IMO. Duncanville is a little different, I think it just takes the right coach to acquire the talent from that area(Samples does an excellent job of attracting talent wherever he goes) https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/high-school/high-schools/2018/08/15/four-star-football-recruits-marquez-beason-zeriah-beason-transfer-bishop-dunne-duncanville Kendrick Blackshire-Played at Mesquite Horn before transferring to Duncanville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 The bottom line is this Every successful program attracts players to play for them. The means by how that happens are different in every successful program though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 We need steeler to post more and the clown posse to post less. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 hours ago, 181pl said: but don't get me wrong, those schools are great football teams. But they're not a true representation of a high school football team because all they are is recruit up athlete factories. California > Texas Texas with there overpopulated schools play ok football, but are very overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 5 hours ago, 181pl said: but don't get me wrong, those schools are great football teams. But they're not a true representation of a high school football team because all they are is recruit up athlete factories. Please take this post directly to the Excuse Thread. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 9 hours ago, steeler01 said: The bottom line is this Every successful program attracts players to play for them. The means by how that happens are different in every successful program though. Successful programs are measured by "time and history". Today....successful programs are measured by how well they stack their rosters in the off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Today.....you have way too many stacked "start-ups"....it remains to be seen how successful they are through the years or if they are even still around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Please take this post directly to the Excuse Thread. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Let's see how MD fares against IMG at their field or at Saint Francis. I watched the IMG game last year. And MD is a really good team, but the refs handed you that game but booting out img's best defensive players on BS calls.. And your team did not have to travel 3000 miles. I'm sure it takes a lot of bravado to play a bunch of overmatched teams most of the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, RedZone said: Successful programs are measured by "time and history". Today....successful programs are measured by how well they stack their rosters in the off season. In the past, the programs with the inherently stacked rosters were the successful ones. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, The Guru said: In the last, the programs with the inherently stacked rosters were the successful ones. What's your definition of successful? 75% of my Preseason Top 25 were nowhere to be found in the past.....some just 5 years ago. That said it is what it is. Five years from now if I try another Preseason Poll there will 6-10 new start ups who have attracted much talent because they are "successful"......or WANT to be I'm not an Allen, TX fan either. That mega school model is outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 In the last? What the hell kind of bullshit grammar is that? Sounds like something that comes from some random nobody who failed Grammar classes and only passed school by sucking the dick of the administrators "In the last, the programs with the inherently stacked rosters were the successful ones." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 10 hours ago, The Guru said: We need steeler to post more and the clown posse to post less. I agree We need less clowns like you on this forum, Everytime you show up the IQ takes a huge dip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 10 hours ago, steeler01 said: The bottom line is this Every successful program attracts players to play for them. The means by how that happens are different in every successful program though. Very true The programs who have had success won't need to recruit anyone because players will want to play for them It's normally schools who have long runs of losing in a large talent loaded area that has to try recruiting to keep up (many times they still fail) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: In the last? What the hell kind of bullshit grammar is that It was suppose to be a "p", kid Do you really want me to start grading your gibberish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: It was suppose to be a "p", kid Do you really want me to start grading your gibberish? But I thought the guru was too good for "grammar mistakes" because he supposed to know everything Take your ass kissing behind back to that failing blog you couldn't run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, RedZone said: It was suppose to be a "p", kid Do you really want me to start grading your gibberish? Btw what happened to placing me on ignore like a insecure bitch because you couldn't handle me telling you that LSU isn't elite Maybe if they tried actually recruiting instead of just chasing 24/7 stars maybe they would actually have a chance in hell of competing with bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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