ChimpGrip Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Not one game. Saban coached in the NFL. He wasn't able to bully teams all game long and ran. NFL is a different game than college, I know one of the best GMs in the NFL personally and he says this. Just shut up already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: So then that's not coaching. Coaching starts with recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 When i think of a great coach, I think of someone whose actually going to have to coach a game and not just bully the other team with a better roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, HooverOutlaw said: Coaching starts with recruiting. At no other level than college is recruiting considered coaching by anyone. How often do we hear people on hear crying about another teams roster at the HS level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 To further aid the ignorance that is permeating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: When i think of a great coach, I think of someone whose actually going to have to coach a game and not just bully the other team with a better roster. You don’t know shit. Nobody cares what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, ChimpGrip said: You don’t know shit. Nobody cares what you think. Then don't respond. You're a whiny lil bitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Question is why did Harbaugh not recruit better like Alabama Georgia or Ohio State. At the end of the day these are academic institutions with standards. There are lots of reasons Stanford didn’t land Kool-Aid McKinstry or Henry Ruggs. The biggest being they couldn’t get into the school period. I don’t know what sort of standards Michigan has for 5-star athletes, but it’s an elite university. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, steeler01 said: Then don't respond. You're a whiny lil bitch Lol that’s all you got 😂 fucking potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 He did it better and longer than anybody else. What was stopping other schools and coaches from dethroning him? He was the CEO. Always had a great staff, faced constant changes in the sport and staff turnover like no other. He figured it out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: At no other level than college is recruiting considered coaching by anyone. How often do we hear people on hear crying about another teams roster at the HS level? Everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, GoBigBlack said: At the end of the day these are academic institutions with standards. There are lots of reasons Stanford didn’t land Kool-Aid McKinstry or Henry Ruggs. The biggest being they couldn’t get into the school period. I don’t know what sort of standards Michigan has for 5-star athletes, but it’s an elite university. Name one 5 star Michigan turned away? If you are a 5 star you will get in period at any school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, HooverOutlaw said: Everyday Exactly, and everyone hates on those coaches. Biff Poggi by your standards is a top 3 coach in America when he was at SFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, GoBigBlack said: At the end of the day these are academic institutions with standards. There are lots of reasons Stanford didn’t land Kool-Aid McKinstry or Henry Ruggs. The biggest being they couldn’t get into the school period. I don’t know what sort of standards Michigan has for 5-star athletes, but it’s an elite university. Taylor Lewan did Michigan no favors with this clip. I’d bet Koolaid probably had better than a 1.6 and a 35% in Spanish. Just a guess though. https://x.com/FromEastLansing/status/1630234290251513856?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: When i think of a great coach, I think of someone whose actually going to have to coach a game and not just bully the other team with a better roster. I'd suggest he did both very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 14 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Alabama won national titles in the 1920s and 1930s and 1992 with Bryant or Saban 42 years. If your premise is Alabama was the best pre-Saban You would be wrong. Pre-Saban, Alabama would check in at 5th or 6th. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39266327/who-won-most-college-football-championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, HurricaneNick said: Texas A&M too. But some care about recruiting championships and some care about real championships. Everyone can look up Michigans last 5 recruiting classes. How many 5 stars are on that roster. I recall seeing that both Michigan and Washington had few, maybe zero, 5-star players. Coaching matters! DeBoer is a great coach and if I’m the Bama AD he would be on my candidate list. Watching Michigan is a coaching clinic also. The OC Sherrone Moore will be a hot commodity and on the list for any big openings. And Jesse Minter is a defensive savant. Harbaugh rightfully gets all the credit, but he had 2 of the best coordinators in the business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Just now, pied said: I'd suggest he did both very well. He didn't have many 50/50 games in college. How often was Alabama the underdog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, HurricaneNick said: He did it better and longer than anybody else. What was stopping other schools and coaches from dethroning him? He was the CEO. Always had a great staff, faced constant changes in the sport and staff turnover like no other. He figured it out. From 1958-2023 that is 66 seasons. 42 of those Alabama had the best Coach in the country. No school touches this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Exactly, and everyone hates on those coaches. Biff Poggi by your standards is a top 3 coach in America when he was at SFA I think comparing across different types of leagues isn't particularly compelling. He competed against teams with the same rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Bodysurf said: I recall seeing that both Michigan and Washington had few, maybe zero, 5-star players. Coaching matters! DeBoer is a great coach and if I’m the Bama AD he would be on my candidate list. Watching Michigan is a coaching clinic also. The OC Sherrone Moore will be a hot commodity and on the list for any big openings. And Jesse Minter is a defensive savant. Harbaugh rightfully gets all the credit, but he had 2 of the best coordinators in the business. College football with Harbaugh getting a roster filled with 5 Stars would be unfair. Harbaugh at Ohio State. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneNick Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: I recall seeing that both Michigan and Washington had few, maybe zero, 5-star players. Coaching matters! DeBoer is a great coach and if I’m the Bama AD he would be on my candidate list. Watching Michigan is a coaching clinic also. The OC Sherrone Moore will be a hot commodity and on the list for any big openings. And Jesse Minter is a defensive savant. Harbaugh rightfully gets all the credit, but he had 2 of the best coordinators in the business. Completely agree. Minter had them operating on another level. I hope Alabama takes Deboer or Lanning far away from the west coast! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Fred said: If your premise is Alabama was the best pre-Saban You would be wrong. Pre-Saban, Alabama would check in at 5th or 6th. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39266327/who-won-most-college-football-championships Those titles right after the civil war when 6 teams played are meaningless. Alabama had 12 before Saban. For the last 100 years Alabama is the king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pied Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: He didn't have many 50/50 games in college. How often was Alabama the underdog? Interesting that you don't appear to give him any credit for putting his teams in that position. Getting great talent is one part, coaching them to be great is another animal altogether. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: College football with Harbaugh getting a roster filled with 5 Stars would be unfair. Harbaugh at Ohio State. Harbaugh failed that he did not recruit better he may have more titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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