The Guru Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: I’m not denying anything Could've fooled me and everyone else here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, The Guru said: Mesquite is a 30-minute drive down the freeway from Duncanville. Totally within reason that he transferred there and stayed in the same house because that was the best decision for him and his family. This same situation occurs all the time with private school kids (and transfers). You don’t need to guess what is rational or not for his family...you simply don’t know. You googled the distance from mesquite to DV but you don’t know crap beyond that. (You don’t even know how long, bc of traffic, that commute would be) All you need to know is there are measures to be a check and balance for athletic transfers and he passed those without question. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I’m not denying anything but it doesn’t mean he moved to Duncanville for FOOTBALL reasons. He may not have moved at all! He transferred from crappy Mesquite Horn to maybe the best team in the state, Duncanville, and it's an easy commute from his home. It's not rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You don’t need to guess what is rational or not for his family...you simply don’t know. And I don't need to know. But you seem super interested in prying. To claim that the kid definitely moved is absurd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You googled the distance from mesquite to DV but you don’t know crap beyond that. (You don’t even know how long, bc of traffic, that commute would be) I always love when people lash out like this. I'm not wrong which is why he's so mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: All you need to know is there are measures to be a check and balance for athletic transfers and he passed those without question. Which doesn't mean jack shit except that it makes school marms like you sleep better at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You don’t need to guess what is rational or not for his family...you simply don’t know. You googled the distance from mesquite to DV but you don’t know crap beyond that. (You don’t even know how long, bc of traffic, that commute would be) All you need to know is there are measures to be a check and balance for athletic transfers and he passed those without question. Case closed. If a coach doesn’t check a box on a form, then the athletic transfer is not questioned. Is that really a system of “checks and balances “? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Colonel said: If a coach doesn’t check a box on a form, then the athletic transfer is not questioned. Is that really a system of “checks and balances “? Of course it is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, The Colonel said: If a coach doesn’t check a box on a form, then the athletic transfer is not questioned. Is that really a system of “checks and balances “? Yes, because others can flag a transfer to the UIL or to the gaining district executive committee, not just the coach and administrators. The reason why it's a check and balance is that a losing coach doesn't typically have anything to gain by not checking off a box and allowing a competitor to gain an athletic adv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Yes, because others can flag a transfer to the UIL or to the gaining district executive committee, not just the coach and administrators. The reason why it's a check and balance is that a losing coach doesn't typically have anything to gain by not checking off a box and allowing a competitor to gain an athletic adv. And yet, it rarely happens out of thousands of athletes that transfer each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: Yes, because others can flag a transfer to the UIL or to the gaining district executive committee, not just the coach and administrators. The reason why it's a check and balance is that a losing coach doesn't typically have anything to gain by not checking off a box and allowing a competitor to gain an athletic adv. He does if he's also getting transfers the same way. It's a scratch my back, and I'll I scratch yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, The Colonel said: And yet, it rarely happens out of thousands of athletes that transfer each year. Why are you stuck on this loop? A transfer can meet all the criteria and get approved, folks can move for all sorts of reasons. Doesn't mean they transferred for a flaggable offense. the issue in Texas is not schools gaining an athletic adv bc of transfers.... You guys are way off target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 The reason you can cite several transfer denials from UIL is that it rarely happens. It’s big news when it happens. The rest of the thousands of athletic transfers just happen with no fuss...All because the “losing” coach didn’t check a box on a form, knowing he’ll likely get a few transfers back his way in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: He does if he's also getting transfers the same way. It's a scratch my back, and I'll I scratch yours Other people can flag a transfer, not just a coach. But if we are assuming it's a quid pro quo thing, then we are assuming the system is corrupt and so are the coaches. We can assume criminality then in any scenario and any state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: Why are you stuck on this loop? A transfer can meet all the criteria and get approved, folks can move for all sorts of reasons. Doesn't mean they transferred for a flaggable offense. the issue in Texas is not schools gaining an athletic adv bc of transfers.... You guys are way off target. It’s not an “approval “. It’s a coach deciding to not check a box on a form. Kind of like “looking the other way”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: Other people can flag a transfer, not just a coach. But if we are assuming it's a quid pro quo thing, then we are assuming the system is corrupt and so are the coaches. We can assume criminality then in any scenario and any state. Of, course. If you're assuming otherwise, you haven't been around people much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Colonel said: The reason you can cite several transfer denials from UIL is that it rarely happens. It’s big news when it happens. The rest of the thousands of athletic transfers just happen with no fuss...All because the “losing” coach didn’t check a box on a form, knowing he’ll likely get a few transfers back his way in the future. Like I told Steeler and you already, others can flag a transfer, not just a coach. Parents, players, opposing coaches not involved in the transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, steeler01 said: He does if he's also getting transfers the same way. It's a scratch my back, and I'll I scratch yours BINGO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Colonel said: The reason you can cite several transfer denials from UIL is that it rarely happens. It’s big news when it happens. The rest of the thousands of athletic transfers just happen with no fuss...All because the “losing” coach didn’t check a box on a form, knowing he’ll likely get a few transfers back his way in the future. It would be nice if there was a UIL transfer website showing every transfer that happened for the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Colonel said: It’s not an “approval “. It’s a coach deciding to not check a box on a form. Kind of like “looking the other way”. I already told you others can flag a transfer, not just a coach. If one has knowledge of an illegal transfer they can take It to the DEC or UIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Colonel said: The reason you can cite several transfer denials from UIL is that it rarely happens. It’s big news when it happens. The rest of the thousands of athletic transfers just happen with no fuss...All because the “losing” coach didn’t check a box on a form, knowing he’ll likely get a few transfers back his way in the future. Exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: It would be nice if there was a UIL transfer website showing every transfer that happened for the year. The district might have it as they are the 1st line of defense. UIL would only get involved for cases referred to them on appeal.. those are listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Of, course. If you're assuming otherwise, you haven't been around people much Well then why are some of you all bitching, moaning and deflecting about the recruiting going on in CA? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I already told you others can flag a transfer, not just a coach. If one has knowledge of an illegal transfer they can take It to the DEC or UIL. You have to repeated this 45 times we get it texas Transfers is a joke we get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: Well then why are you all bitching, moaning and deflecting about the recruiting going on in CA? 😂 Huh....... can you quote where anyone is fighting off transfers like you and goofball are for Texas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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