Why these Mater Dei Transfers caught DLS Attn:

[TigerHat]

On 9/22/2019 at 2:12 PM, HurricaneNick said:

pretty positive we aren’t talking about either of those  schools or games from years ago. Ha-ha-ha. I spent a few hours yesterday watching as much dv Katy and NS. All are simple and rely on athletes. Katy has some big guys up front so they can run that offense. No checks at the line no communication after the huddle is broken. No different looks on defense either, simple stunts only. Could either qb from dv or ns process down field against elite dbs once a team that’s better up front limits their running game? Yeah right, both stare down receivers you know where the balls going the whole time. Like I’ve said before it gets a lot more complex than that state championship last year between NS and Dv. Reliant on athletes and athleticism, not scheme. Roll the tape and you’ll see the difference it’s really not that hard. 

LOL. The reason the Katy linemen don't check with each other at the line is because when they walked up to the line and saw the defensive alignment they already knew what everyone on the line was going to do, and how those blocking assignments would change when the defense shifts. They don't have to talk about it; they talked all of that out months earlier. By the way, the Katy coaches generally don't make half time adjustments, the players do - and then check with the coaches to see if they missed anything. Cause the hicks and yokels in Texas playing footall just ain't as sophisticated as you Know it Alls out in California.

[HawgGoneIt]

On 9/25/2019 at 5:18 PM, 181pl said:

https://floridahsfootball.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3677-st-thomas-aquinas-transfers-the-real-numbers/

 

This is a start.

There is apparently three listed in that OP. 

I didn't see anyone correct the listing on that page. I didn't go any further.

[Texasfrog]

Here is a few of the 2019 Mater Dei transfers this year.

FBS (P5) Prospect:  RB- Marcesses Yetts   -  transferred from Narbonne HS

FBS (P5) Prospect:  WR- Cristian Dixon  - transferred from Diamond Bar HS

FBS (P5) Prospect:  LB- Austin Bressler - transferred from Centennial Corona HS

FBS (P5) Prospect:  OL- Donovan Ford - transfered from Allen HS (TX)

Lets not forget 5-Star Prospect: QB- Bryce Young who transferred last year for his Junior and Senior Seasons.

Sept.21, 2018:

Mater Dei Head Coach Rollison....."We only got 11 football transfers this season."

LMFAO.... Yes he really said that!!

 

[On2whls]

26 minutes ago, Texasfrog said:

FBS (P5) Prospect:  LB- Austin Bressler - transferred from Centennial Corona HS

LMAO.  This kid had 0 tackles.  I guess in TX that might constitute a P5 prospect.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

2 minutes ago, On2whls said:

LMAO.  This kid had 0 tackles.  I guess in TX that might constitute a P5 prospect.

All I know is never suggest to a Texan they should play an OOS game

 

 

lmao 😂 dead ass it’s not worth all this headache 

[On2whls]

2 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

All I know is never suggest to a Texan they should play an OOS game

 

 

lmao 😂 dead ass it’s not worth all this headache 

Amen to that brother.  

[Eddyr2]

1 hour ago, Texasfrog said:

Here is a few of the 2019 Mater Dei transfers this year.

FBS (P5) Prospect:  RB- Marcesses Yetts   -  transferred from Narbonne HS

FBS (P5) Prospect:  WR- Cristian Dixon  - transferred from Diamond Bar HS

FBS (P5) Prospect:  LB- Austin Bressler - transferred from Centennial Corona HS

FBS (P5) Prospect:  OL- Donovan Ford - transfered from Allen HS (TX)

Lets not forget 5-Star Prospect: QB- Bryce Young who transferred last year for his Junior and Senior Seasons.

Sept.21, 2018:

Mater Dei Head Coach Rollison....."We only got 11 football transfers this season."

LMFAO.... Yes he really said that!!

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/usatodayhss.com/2018/pair-of-four-star-football-recruits-cousins-in-texas-transfer-together/amp

https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/12/14/allen-is-where-the-best-in-the-state-aspire-to-play-but-the-football-transfers-are-coming-at-a-cost/

 

[golfaddict1]

Has this been shared yet?   Interesting read.  

https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Transferring-a-trend-among-high-school-football-9195881.php

 

[imaGoodBoyNow]

28 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Has this been shared yet?   Interesting read.  

https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Transferring-a-trend-among-high-school-football-9195881.php

 

But Texas don’t get Transfers

 

 

their Genuine Down there

[rockinl]

1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said:

Has this been shared yet?   Interesting read.  

https://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/hs/article/Transferring-a-trend-among-high-school-football-9195881.php

 

Ah yes. That dominant powerhouse Texas football factory, aka...Silsbee.

Mater Dei coaches, take notes.

😆😆😆😆😆

 

[golfaddict1]

1 hour ago, rockinl said:

Ah yes. That dominant powerhouse Texas football factory, aka...Silsbee.

Mater Dei coaches, take notes.

😆😆😆😆😆

 

Athletic transfers are a significant part of the high school football picture in Southeast Texas. Teams can quickly become destabilized by the departure of their best players, who face few consequences when they leave.

Some area head coaches, including West Brook's Kevin Flanigan, think the current athletic transfer rules are bad for the game.

 

"It gives kids the option to not stick it out," Flanigan said. "Now you can pick up and move some place that has a winning program or, if you aren't a starter, we are teaching them, 'Don't work harder, just move some place where you can be a starter.'

 

"Personally, I think we are teaching kids the wrong things. That's not how life works."

'Yes' means no

Tyler is one of many in the area who used UIL transfer rules to move to a nearby district without missing a year of varsity eligibility.

Such moves have been possible since 1981, when the University Interscholastic League scrapped its requirement that every athletic transfer sit out for one year regardless of where they transferred from.

 

UIL Deputy Director Jamey Harrison estimated the UIL received around 9,500 Previous Athletic Participation Forms last school year but said District Executive Committee meetings seldom came into play. When they do, Harrison said, the DEC decision is rarely contested. The next appeal would be to the UIL executive committee ­- the highest authority in the transfer process.

"We think the system has worked well," Harrison said. "It's not perfect, but we think it has been very successful."

Harrison said about 25 to 40 athletes ultimately are found ineligible by the UIL committee each year. If an athlete is ruled ineligible, can still decide to transfer to the new school but must sit out of varsity athletics for a year.

[Horsefly]

2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Athletic transfers are a significant part of the high school football picture in Southeast Texas. Teams can quickly become destabilized by the departure of their best players, who face few consequences when they leave.

Some area head coaches, including West Brook's Kevin Flanigan, think the current athletic transfer rules are bad for the game.

 

"It gives kids the option to not stick it out," Flanigan said. "Now you can pick up and move some place that has a winning program or, if you aren't a starter, we are teaching them, 'Don't work harder, just move some place where you can be a starter.'

 

"Personally, I think we are teaching kids the wrong things. That's not how life works."

'Yes' means no

Tyler is one of many in the area who used UIL transfer rules to move to a nearby district without missing a year of varsity eligibility.

Such moves have been possible since 1981, when the University Interscholastic League scrapped its requirement that every athletic transfer sit out for one year regardless of where they transferred from.

 

UIL Deputy Director Jamey Harrison estimated the UIL received around 9,500 Previous Athletic Participation Forms last school year but said District Executive Committee meetings seldom came into play. When they do, Harrison said, the DEC decision is rarely contested. The next appeal would be to the UIL executive committee ­- the highest authority in the transfer process.

"We think the system has worked well," Harrison said. "It's not perfect, but we think it has been very successful."

Harrison said about 25 to 40 athletes ultimately are found ineligible by the UIL committee each year. If an athlete is ruled ineligible, can still decide to transfer to the new school but must sit out of varsity athletics for a year.

So what exactly do you think you exposed?  No one denies transfers happen, but even the UIL deputy director thinks the current system works well.  

“We think the system has worked well," Harrison said. "It's not perfect, but we think it has been very successful."

[golfaddict1]

24 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

So what exactly do you think you exposed?  No one denies transfers happen, but even the UIL deputy director thinks the current system works well.  

“We think the system has worked well," Harrison said. "It's not perfect, but we think it has been very successful."

Maybe the FHSAA and CIF directors feel the same way?    25 to 40 out of around 9500 is not one half of one percent of denial of transfers.    That might deserve an emoji laugh.  

I offered an article as an interesting read and still do.  

[Horsefly]

19 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Maybe the FHSAA and CIF directors feel the same way?    25 to 40 out of around 9500 is not one half of one percent of denial of transfers.    That might deserve an emoji laugh.  

I offered an article as an interesting read and still do.  

You laugh although you have no perspective on the total number of athletes in the state nor did the director offer any thought into if he thought any of those requests were questionable.  

[imaGoodBoyNow]

56 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

So what exactly do you think you exposed?  No one denies transfers happen

 

On 9/19/2019 at 1:15 AM, Powerball said:

 

And we do think we're the best in Texas because it's genuine here. No  recruiting and we feel like our champion would  have a good chance of beating anybody.

 

 

[Horsefly]

2 hours ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

 

 

Transferring is not the same as recruiting.  Comprehension is key 

[rockinl]

4 hours ago, golfaddict1 said:

Maybe the FHSAA and CIF directors feel the same way?    25 to 40 out of around 9500 is not one half of one percent of denial of transfers.    That might deserve an emoji laugh.  

I offered an article as an interesting read and still do.  

Youre ASSUMING that all 9500 transfers were stud athletes???????

[Powerball]

13 hours ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

 

 

I definitely stand behind that statement.

Not only is Texas pure genuine not Superstar teams but there's a shitload of good teams that no other state can match.

I don't think. I know.

You can pretend all you want being from a state that's probably got one recruited team and the rest of them are garbage.

[Eddyr2]

3 minutes ago, Powerball said:

Texas pure genuine not Superstar

https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/12/14/allen-is-where-the-best-in-the-state-aspire-to-play-but-the-football-transfers-are-coming-at-a-cost/

https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/08/16/four-star-football-recruits-marquez-beason-and-zeriah-beason-transfer-from-bishop-dunne-to-duncanville/

http://katytimes.com/sports/article_2948f3fe-76b7-11e9-97b5-33696d0ad976.html

https://www.vype.com/txhsfb-2639821410

[Powerball]

1 minute ago, Eddyr2 said:

https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/12/14/allen-is-where-the-best-in-the-state-aspire-to-play-but-the-football-transfers-are-coming-at-a-cost/

https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/08/16/four-star-football-recruits-marquez-beason-and-zeriah-beason-transfer-from-bishop-dunne-to-duncanville/

http://katytimes.com/sports/article_2948f3fe-76b7-11e9-97b5-33696d0ad976.html

https://www.vype.com/txhsfb-2639821410

Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

But still a couple players is not like someone recruiting Nationwide and put an ads in the newspaper like the Miami schools do.

UIL it's pretty tight about that stuff.

 

[Eddyr2]

35 minutes ago, Powerball said:

UIL it's pretty tight about that stuff.

Tell that the original schools of the 70+ transfers Allen’s has

[Pops]

On 9/27/2019 at 8:39 AM, golfaddict1 said:

Some area head coaches, including West Brook's Kevin Flanigan, think the current athletic transfer rules are bad for the game.

"It gives kids the option to not stick it out," Flanigan said. "Now you can pick up and move some place that has a winning program or, if you aren't a starter, we are teaching them, 'Don't work harder, just move some place where you can be a starter.'

"Personally, I think we are teaching kids the wrong things. That's not how life works."

^^^

I personally agree with this guy, among other reasons for being opposed to the direction the game is taking.

That said, it is what it is, so you either compete or you don't

It's not a black and white issue -- DLS doesn't behave like the emerging academies, but they have their advantages; Ditto large TX publics.  There's a half dozen schools, mostly in SoCal and MD/ DC that are stretching that shade spectrum waaaaaay out -- but it's legal, regardless of how good or not it is for direction of hsfb

[Sammyswordsman]

2 minutes ago, Pops said:

^^^

I personally agree with this guy, among other reasons for being opposed to the direction the game is taking.

That said, it is what it is, so you either compete or you don't

It's not a black and white issue -- DLS doesn't behave like the emerging academies, but they have their advantages; Ditto large TX publics.  There's a half dozen schools, mostly in SoCal and MD/ DC that are stretching that shade spectrum waaaaaay out -- but it's legal, regardless of how good or not it is for direction of hsfb

You liked the direction of HS football where DLS gets all the good pop warner kids in the East Bay and Pittsburg, and the So Cal schools went with whatever the feeder parishes sent them.  We get it.

[The Guru]

8 minutes ago, Pops said:

^^^

I personally agree with this guy, among other reasons for being opposed to the direction the game is taking.

Forcing people to "stick it out" against their will is not only silly but it's coercion.

If you think sticking it out is better for the kid then that's your opinion and that's fine. But you can't legislate good parenting.

[Pops]

3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

You liked the direction of HS football where DLS gets all the good pop warner kids in the East Bay and Pittsburg, and the So Cal schools went with whatever the feeder parishes sent them.  We get it.

I believe the Trinity schools and DLS operated very similarly before the advent of the academies

Neither actively recruited, but there were kids that weren't necessarily devout Catholics, but nonetheless submitted an application with all the other 8th graders and some got in.

The Trinity schools were just drawing from 20 million people, while DLS's geography could stretch to 1 million if you included Vallejo, Richmond, Antioch and Livermore -- basically all of Contra Costa County and then some.

As I said, DLS had their advantages and still do vs most teams

MD/ SJB just taking the arms race nuclear

And it doesn't make the rest of Trinity or SoCal better -- that's where these players are coming from (unless they need a good NG from NorCal or an OL from TX)

Rollinson saying "we only got 11 recruits" says it all -- 10 years ago, admitting to a single recruit would have been a lightening rod of controversey -- now the dialogue is around whether 11 per year is too many.

DLS has never had one.  Am not trying to make the point that DLS's shit doesn't stink, just how the conversation has tilted seismically.