Mag44 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 15 hours ago, On2whls said: If you watch the entire video of the arrest and follow the science, you can make a case for reasonable doubt. Lets give Floyd the benefit of the doubt and accept that when he was originally placed into the cruiser declaring he couldn’t breathe, he was being truthful. What would cause him to have shortness of breath. Likely not arrest anxiety as he was well experienced at that. What would have caused him to have 3.5 times the normal lethal level of Fentanyl metabolites for a person of his size. Did he mistakenly take too much? Not likely, his personal history shows he was an experienced and proficient drug user. Given his issues with drug use, finding Fentanyl on his person would have landed him some considerable jail time. So, it’s pretty likely that the white mass seen in his mouth on frame by frame video was in fact a packet of Fentanyl that he swallowed hoping it would pass through his system. Add to the scenario that someone with the level of Fentanyl he had in his system would have collapsed pretty quickly and wouldn’t have been cruising around with his buddy passing off counterfeit bills. The fact that he was high explains his erratic behavior and ill witted decision to force his way back out of the cruiser which at that particular moment, represented his safest space. He might even have been able to convince officers to get him medical attention. The arresting officers actions certainly didn’t help the situation but after swallowing the Fentanyl (if that’s what happened) he basically set himself up for cardiac arrest. It was a pretty tragic situation overall but why ignore the science to continue the tragedy? Chauvin will never work again and Floyd’s family is now on easy street. The question is, going forward, how do we prevent that sort of situation playing out without compromising public safety? Very simple, "comply or you can die"....Follow orders, period....Raging, provoking, wearing a hoodie with hands in pockets, talking back, running, fighting, screaming, cursing at police, questioning why your stoped with aggression, throwing things at police,etc.....These guys are stupid and arrogant.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag44 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 34 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said: Not that it matters but none of you have defended the point in having him on the ground for eight minutes. Even while unresponsive 🤷🏻♀️ Was he not already in a police car ready to be arrested? He did not comply, case closed....Period... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 1:10 PM, concha said: Still a mob. Just a different mob. I have not seen a mob but then I'm not a scared angry delusional member of the 'always defend racist and liars' cult. And just so you know, you have zero credibility on anything concerning anything so you shouldn't bother wasting keystrokes replying. Have a great day. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, World Citizen said: I have not seen a mob but then I'm not a scared angry delusional member of the 'always defend racist and liars' cult. And just so you know, you have zero credibility on anything concerning anything so you shouldn't bother wasting keystrokes replying. Have a great day. You didn’t see the mob last summer? Just peaceful protests huh? That’s what Maddow and Lemon spoon fed you? And you ate it all up? Jeez you are one dumb sumbitch. Just because you call for open borders and socialism doesn’t mean you are a good person. In fact it makes you a garbage human. You hate America and cheer for its demise. Maybe that’s why you didn’t see the riots and mobs all last summer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, World Citizen said: you shouldn't bother wasting keystrokes replying. well said 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted April 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: they gonna hit him with a guilty verdict to prevent a riot by you know who It still comes down to what the jury decides. However, a scared jury, a judge that refused to allow a change of venue, a wrongful death award prior to Chauvin even being tried, and a defense lawyer that’s clearly just going through the motions, makes it a strong likelihood of a guilty verdict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 Chauvin was of depraved indifference and most certainly guilty of murder. Life in prison, the electric chair would be too humane. bgw 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 46 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Chauvin was of depraved indifference and most certainly guilty of murder. Life in prison, the electric chair would be too humane. bgw Humanity is in a far greater place given the fact that you are far away from any decision making in regard to criminal justice. The justice system was actually created to stop mobs like you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Chauvin was of depraved indifference and most certainly guilty of murder. Life in prison, the electric chair would be too humane. bgw Ohh give me a break, ur acting like Floyd was some hero Martyr, dude was a violent criminal, committing a crime, while resisting and swallowing a giant ball of fentanyl, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Humanity is in a far greater place given the fact that you are far away from any decision making in regard to criminal justice. The justice system was actually created to stop mobs like you Uh huh... carry on Jim Crow. Qualified immunity is an extension of that... you do know Chauvin’s very own superiors condemned his actions? bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Ohh give me a break, ur acting like Floyd was some hero Martyr, dude was a violent criminal, committing a crime, while resisting and swallowing a giant ball of fentanyl, He is now, thanks to murdering idiots like Chauvin. The autopsy showed trace amounts. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: You didn’t see the mob last summer? Just peaceful protests huh? That’s what Maddow and Lemon spoon fed you? And you ate it all up? Jeez you are one dumb sumbitch. Just because you call for open borders and socialism doesn’t mean you are a good person. In fact it makes you a garbage human. You hate America and cheer for its demise. Maybe that’s why you didn’t see the riots and mobs all last summer Love America, hate hatred and oppression. bgw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShells21 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Humanity is in a far greater place given the fact that you are far away from any decision making in regard to criminal justice. The justice system was actually created to stop mobs like you Is that a confession? #StopAsianHate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, SeaShells21 said: Is that a confession? The justice system was designed to allow someone to prove their innocence when accused of a crime. If you can prove it, then you should be free to go. Mob justice is something you see in the 3rd world countries and in Hollywood movies. It’s not reality in a functioning democracy. You can say he’s guilty because you are afraid of the aftermath. That’s not justice. That’s a kangaroo court 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 6, 2021 Report Share Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: The justice system was designed to allow someone to prove their innocence when accused of a crime. If you can prove it, then you should be free to go. Mob justice is something you see in the 3rd world countries and in Hollywood movies. It’s not reality in a functioning democracy. You can say he’s guilty because you are afraid of the aftermath. That’s not justice. That’s a kangaroo court What group of people did the framers of the constitution have in mind? bgw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 3:45 PM, World Citizen said: I have not seen a mob but then I'm not a scared angry delusional member of the 'always defend racist and liars' cult. And just so you know, you have zero credibility on anything concerning anything so you shouldn't bother wasting keystrokes replying. Have a great day. Nice to see you chiming in and two of the other imbeciles whose asses I regularly kick giving you some empathy love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/3/2021 at 4:10 PM, concha said: Still a mob. Just a different Please. These people glory in opposing the "woke" elements of society but now they're afraid of being attacked by the "mob"? Maybe he can get Sidney Powell. I heard she's available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 3:45 PM, World Citizen said: I have not seen a mob but then I'm not a scared angry delusional member of the 'always defend racist and liars' cult. I've charged anybody to find one instance where concha, et al didn't defend a killer/liar/crook that committed his crime in what was considered a defense of right-wing America. Still waiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 6:01 PM, imaGoodBoyNow said: dude was a violent criminal, committing a crime, while resisting and swallowing a giant ball of fentanyl, Potentially passing a counterfeit $20 is a crime where the sentence is death. Says every right-wig clown who defends dumb shit like this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, concha said: two of the other imbeciles whose asses I regularly kick giving you some empathy love. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Potentially passing a counterfeit $20 is a crime where the sentence is death. Says every right-wig clown who defends dumb shit like this. Na jail time but swallowing a giant bag of fentanyl is a death sentence doubt u know anything about fent but the size of the nose 👃 on a penny will kill u, this fool had a bag 20x that amount, with his heart racing 1000 times a minute no shit he was gonna die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Na jail time but swallowing a giant bag of fentanyl is a death sentence doubt u know anything about fent but the size of the nose 👃 on a penny will kill u, this fool had a bag 20x that amount, with his heart racing 1000 times a minute no shit he was gonna die He died because he was choked for 9 minutes. But he got what he deserved. Says every right-wing dumbass who defense every killing as long as the person is black and might not be conservative. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommygun58 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Potentially passing a counterfeit $20 is a crime where the sentence is death. Says every right-wig clown who defends dumb shit like this. Twice in one hour the fake twenty was tried.That would make any store owner & police very concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 On 4/5/2021 at 6:20 PM, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: He is now, thanks to murdering idiots like Chauvin. The autopsy showed trace amounts. bgw It was significantly higher than "trace amounts" FWIW. The autopsy showed he had 11 nanograms per milliliter, which is 3X what is commonly considered a "fatal" level. Obviously with a guy that size YMMV in terms of potential fatality, but he was clearly pretty drugged up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 7, 2021 Report Share Posted April 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, tommygun58 said: Twice in one hour the fake twenty was tried.That would make any store owner & police very concerned. The sentence for that is being choked to death. 👌 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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