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14+ children murdered in Texas today!


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16 hours ago, DevilDog said:

Except Mental Health experts have stated this isn't Mental Health.  Those with mental health rarely are violent toward others they are more likely to hurt themselves.  This is rage, hate and anger.  It's a mentality but not one of the health variant.  Please research.  But the Republicans never claim its Mental health when it comes to Chicago and like a true Acolyte.  Gov. Hot Wheels here today in Texas invoked Chicago when addressing this shooting

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-05-21/blaming-mental-health-mass-shootings-buffalo

Abbott doesnt know his ass from a hole  in the wall... 

 

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We just listened to a press conference and his grandmother called for help and the police were notified that she had been shot;

So, it’s not as if the police were unaware of a shooting in the area.

If that’s the case, I feel like they had a chance to put this school on lockdown. 

From what I heard, they lived pretty close to the elementary school 😕

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And as always we'll repeat the cycle... 

Again 

And 

Again

And 

Again 

Because "We shall not be infringed upon"... 

If its gonna be like that then lets just start handing out Kevlar Backpacks and vest for the kids... 

And tell em Good Luck... 

Because Your lives arent as important as my right to have a fucking AR... 

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30 minutes ago, Bormio said:

The police response at Columbine still is the thinking of too many officers in these situations .Need to learn something from the FDNY on 9-11.

After all these years of shootings, most of us thought it was understood and common knowledge that you can't wait outside while hearing shots inside. In particular something as vulnerable as a children's school. No training, no planning, no leadership ?  How many bled to death.. waiting ?

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19 minutes ago, dan in daytona said:

After all these years of shootings, most of us thought it was understood and common knowledge that you can't wait outside while hearing shots inside. In particular something as vulnerable as a children's school. No training, no planning, no leadership ?  How many bled to death.. waiting ?

I hate to be judgmental as an onlooker from afar, but this just seems awful.  You sign up to protect and serve.  Don’t wanna do that - don’t sign up.  The FDNY men and women knew they quite likely would die, but they wanted to save lives.  We have seen this police cowardice repeatedly.  The leadership of these departments are failing to establish a sense of duty in those they lead.

One might say there is a time for real men, but that might get you canceled.

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Whatabout Chicago.  Please spin this.  Facts
Firearm deaths include all deaths involving guns, such as homicide, suicide, and accidents. More people in the US die from suicide involving a firearm than homicides or accidents.  Why does Gov. Hot Wheels and his acolytes never mention this?  The RepubliGun Brigade are actually their own worst Enemy.    

When someone dies from a Gun in the U.S. It is more likely to look like the RepubliGunz.  But hey whatabout Chicago.  These damn Tricksters point the finger at others so much, they have no Concept that  3 fingers on their own fists are pointing back themselves.  

Gov. Hot Wheels here in Texas is foolish with his Chicago references.  The tragic events keep it from being comical.  It's racist dog whistles to deflect. 

 

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Among males:   Whatabout Chicgo 

  • White men ages 75+ had the highest firearm suicide rate among all males. White males had the highest firearm suicide rate in the 35-54 and 55-74 year age groups as well.
  • Among males of each racial and ethnic identity other than White, the highest firearm suicide rate was among men ages 20-34.
  • American Indian/Alaska Native males had the highest firearm suicide rate in the 0-19 and 25-34 year age group groups and the second-highest rate (after White males) in the 35-54 and 55-74 year age groups.

While no population is immune from firearm suicide, some demographic groups are at higher risk. Males die by firearm suicide at overwhelmingly higher rates than do females. White males and American Indian/Alaska Native males are disproportionately impacted by firearm suicide.

In 2019, firearm suicide risk was highest among people age 75 and older across the population as a whole, but that was primarily due to the very high rate of suicide among White males in that age group. Firearm suicide rates peaked at younger ages for other race/sex demographic groups. Looking at rates by sex, race, and age together can help to paint a better picture of firearm suicide in the United States.

 

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1 hour ago, Bormio said:

I hate to be judgmental as an onlooker from afar, but this just seems awful.  You sign up to protect and serve.  Don’t wanna do that - don’t sign up.  The FDNY men and women knew they quite likely would die, but they wanted to save lives.  We have seen this police cowardice repeatedly.  The leadership of these departments are failing to establish a sense of duty in those they lead.

One might say there is a time for real men, but that might get you canceled.

100%, but sad.

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1 hour ago, Bormio said:

I hate to be judgmental as an onlooker from afar, but this just seems awful.  You sign up to protect and serve.  Don’t wanna do that - don’t sign up.  The FDNY men and women knew they quite likely would die, but they wanted to save lives.  We have seen this police cowardice repeatedly.  The leadership of these departments are failing to establish a sense of duty in those they lead.

One might say there is a time for real men, but that might get you canceled.

I personally feel there are too many who sign for the opportunity to be in a position of power, instead of for carrying the responsibility of what it means to protect and serve people.

That is why I wonder what it would take to allow veterans the opportunity to maybe take on positions as a line of defending the school in case of another threat. 

They sure as heck won’t wait around for 40 minutes while people and kids are being shot at.

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1 hour ago, DevilDog said:

 

Among males:   Whatabout Chicgo 

  • White men ages 75+ had the highest firearm suicide rate among all males. White males had the highest firearm suicide rate in the 35-54 and 55-74 year age groups as well.
  • Among males of each racial and ethnic identity other than White, the highest firearm suicide rate was among men ages 20-34.
  • American Indian/Alaska Native males had the highest firearm suicide rate in the 0-19 and 25-34 year age group groups and the second-highest rate (after White males) in the 35-54 and 55-74 year age groups.

While no population is immune from firearm suicide, some demographic groups are at higher risk. Males die by firearm suicide at overwhelmingly higher rates than do females. White males and American Indian/Alaska Native males are disproportionately impacted by firearm suicide.

In 2019, firearm suicide risk was highest among people age 75 and older across the population as a whole, but that was primarily due to the very high rate of suicide among White males in that age group. Firearm suicide rates peaked at younger ages for other race/sex demographic groups. Looking at rates by sex, race, and age together can help to paint a better picture of firearm suicide in the United States.

 

Life's always been hard. In the 55-85+ group one would think deteriorating health and loneliness would make up a high percentage of those suicides. So many now of middle age just can't adapt. And with no safety net to speak of for housing, dependence treatment and the like, a bullet must look better than their alternatives. The younger guys (20-34) with the whole world in front of them might be the saddest group of all. Their problems started way before age twenty. I generally put that on F'ed up parents and their abuse, neglect, ignorance, and the pitiful sick environment they had to grow up in. They couldn't overcome the obstacles. Who among us could ?          

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38 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

I personally feel there are too many who sign for the opportunity to be in a position of power, instead of for carrying the responsibility of what it means to protect and serve people.

That is why I wonder what it would take to allow veterans the opportunity to maybe take on positions as a line of defending the school in case of another threat. 

They sure as heck won’t wait around for 40 minutes while people and kids are being shot at.

Police officers aren’t trained to respond to those situations. They write traffic tickets and break up fights. 
 

Veterans would be a much better choice. That’s the stuff they train for. And here we are, talking about hiring warfighters to keep our schools safe while zillionaires are flying to outer space for fun. What a country…

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8 minutes ago, GoBigBlack said:

Police officers aren’t trained to respond to those situations. They write traffic tickets and break up fights. 
 

Veterans would be a much better choice. That’s the stuff they train for. And here we are, talking about hiring warfighters to keep our schools safe while zillionaires are flying to outer space for fun. What a country…

Nice observation, don't no whether to laugh or cry  :)

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4 hours ago, dan in daytona said:

After all these years of shootings, most of us thought it was understood and common knowledge that you can't wait outside while hearing shots inside. In particular something as vulnerable as a children's school. No training, no planning, no leadership ?  How many bled to death.. waiting ?

No one wants to run in and face an AR-15.....

That includes this forum too.

You can't very well go charging in with an AR-15 either.

That gun is worthless. It's only good for random mass shootings.

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2 minutes ago, RedZone said:

No one wants to run in and face an AR-15.....

That includes this forum too.

You can't very well go charging in with an AR-15 either.

That gun is worthless. It's only good for random mass shootings.

When you have to have maximum security/SWAT at little elementary schools you have lost the war to the AR-15.

 

 

 

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