HSFBfan Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Columbiafan said: I agree but i mean i lean talent when judging a state Talent Then coaching Gotcha. I read it wrong then. Talent yes is nice to see up and down when you judge a state. But without coaching does those talents go to waste? This is a chicken and the egg conversation 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Gotcha. I read it wrong then. Talent yes is nice to see up and down when you judge a state. But without coaching does those talents go to waste? This is a chicken and the egg conversation And that's why everyone has their own factors and importance of the factors when judging states 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 If we remove the Big 4(Texas, Florida, California, Georgia), I’d say MD/DC’s top 5 would line up fairly well with anyone else... 1. St. Frances Academy(MIAA) 2. St. John’s College High School(WCAC) 3. DeMatha Catholic(WCAC) 4. Our Lady of Good Counsel(WCAC) 5. Gonzaga College High School(WCAC) Not bad for a state that could fit in Texas 22 times. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB4 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, NicholasMalibu said: If we remove the Big 4(Texas, Florida, California, Georgia), I’d say MD/DC’s top 5 would line up fairly well with anyone else... 1. St. Frances Academy(MIAA) 2. St. John’s College High School(WCAC) 3. DeMatha Catholic(WCAC) 4. Our Lady of Good Counsel(WCAC) 5. Gonzaga College High School(WCAC) Not bad for a state that could fit in Texas 22 times. Someone mentioned the lack of strong public school teams in Cali, I think that is something that could hold MD/DC back if you were using the same criteria here. I mean those teams you listed are all high quality. I just wonder when I dont see any public schools on your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, DB4 said: Someone mentioned the lack of strong public school teams in Cali, I think that is something that could hold MD/DC back if you were using the same criteria here. I mean those teams you listed are all high quality. I just wonder when I dont see any public schools on your list. You’re correct. MD/DC’s public school systems don’t promote football like other states around the country. It’s beyond frustrating knowing how much talent is here. Our public head coaches make less than Georgia’s positional coaches. They also would look at you like an alien if you brought up spring practice/workouts. None of that happens here. The top MD/DC private schools are able to provide advantages that teams in the power states see as status quo. It is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, LiberalDonaldTrump said: State with Best top 5 teams in state or best state with Really good teams from top to bottom I like this ^^^^ better. What is the top state with the best 5 and who are the best 5? That way other states can be brought into this convo. Like ga. lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bald Hairy Man Posted April 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: It's Georgia, big hairy butt cheeks!!!! Georgia dips some Florida into Ohio, farts Texas then shits out California!!!!! Quit asking stupid questions!!!! Take your Florida banner and shove it. I want men to discuss this topic, not fan boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: IMO the states with most teams ranked in the Top 100 nationally qualify as "best" states for any given season. I think I agree the most with GSB..... It doesn't make sense to me to include things like stadiums, band size, halftime shows, amount of fans in the context of this question.....we're not writing Travelocity reviews. Also I think he's right that in an interstate discussion, the only thing that matters is the top 5-10 or so teams from a power state (depending on year)....if someone really wants to go past that and argue over which state has more mediocre teams....then have at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Great minds think alike. PS...I was in Cincy this past weekend. Went to the Rheingeist Brewery. Had a blast! Rhinegeist is a very cool venue. Decent beers IMO, tho a lot of locals think they can do no wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Id rather see kids that just love to play the game and play it hard. Ive seen talented kids quit while less "stars" keep playing hard. Team over stars. And this is from someone who has seen both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fred said: Team over stars. And this is from someone who has seen both. I agree completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted April 18, 2018 Report Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: ET beat DLS. GA is still seeking its first high profile OOS win vs an elite opponent. This is definitely not true. A couple years ago GA had more wins (since 2002) over OOS opponents that FINISHED Top 10 than ANY State. Not counting IMG for Florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospeeder Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 11:57 AM, NicholasMalibu said: You’re correct. MD/DC’s public school systems don’t promote football like other states around the country. It’s beyond frustrating knowing how much talent is here. Our public head coaches make less than Georgia’s positional coaches. They also would look at you like an alien if you brought up spring practice/workouts. None of that happens here. The top MD/DC private schools are able to provide advantages that teams in the power states see as status quo. It is what it is. This scenario is constant with most large cities, particularly east of the Mississippi such as NY, Philly, Chicago etc. where there is talent as good as anywhere in the country but the school systems have been financially robbed blind due to obscene amounts of corruption and cannot put the resources into their respective public leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Gospeeder said: This scenario is constant with most large cities, particularly east of the Mississippi such as NY, Philly, Chicago etc. where there is talent as good as anywhere in the country but the school systems have been financially robbed blind due to obscene amounts of corruption and cannot put the resources into their respective public leagues. You’d be 100% correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 7:44 PM, Fred said: Team over stars. And this is from someone who has seen both. Best is when you get stars to play as a team lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, 954gator said: Best is when you get stars to play as a team lol. We did by the end of the year. In the beginning, not so much. And the parents. OMG! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB4 Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Gospeeder said: This scenario is constant with most large cities, particularly east of the Mississippi such as NY, Philly, Chicago etc. where there is talent as good as anywhere in the country but the school systems have been financially robbed blind due to obscene amounts of corruption and cannot put the resources into their respective public leagues. You're right. Honestly, the only big city I know that has that usually has successful teams is Miami. And I mean the city proper, not the city + suburban areas. It sucks bc like you said, there is a ton of talent in all of these areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 hour ago, DB4 said: You're right. Honestly, the only big city I know that has that usually has successful teams is Miami. And I mean the city proper, not the city + suburban areas. It sucks bc like you said, there is a ton of talent in all of these areas. Las Vegas city proper if you count BG. Cincinnati with Colerain and St.X Louisville with Trinity Tulsa with Union That's all I can think of... I would say Allen but Allen is a suburb of Dallas and has a population of around 70,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 3 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Las Vegas city proper if you count BG. Cincinnati with Colerain and St.X Louisville with Trinity Tulsa with Union That's all I can think of... I would say Allen but Allen is a suburb of Dallas and has a population of around 70,000 Not sure about X being within city limits, but Colerain is suburban, just on the edge of city limits. Small part may be inside the city limit, most/all is just outside.....tho the mailing address is Cincinnati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Packer Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm just going to sit back and smile...... Georgia teams are going to be Extremely strong this year....... yall might want to take notes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 11:08 AM, TheBlockIsHot said: GA is MAYBE 8 or 9. 8 or 9?? Come on man! I know you hate the GA posters, but they are always 4 or 5 (depending on the year) with OH. 1-3 is CA,TX,FL 4-5 is GA,OH 5-10 is LA, PA, AZ, MD, NJ Those have been pretty consistent over the years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 2 hours ago, 94Packer said: I'm just going to sit back and smile...... Georgia teams are going to be Extremely strong this year....... yall might want to take notes. Good to hear because last year they weren’t that great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 7:18 AM, Nolebull813 said: It's Georgia, big hairy butt cheeks!!!! Georgia dips some Florida into Ohio, farts Texas then shits out California!!!!! Quit asking stupid questions!!!! Hey! I was gonna say that...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: 8 or 9?? Come on man! I know you hate the GA posters, but they are always 4 or 5 (depending on the year) with OH. 1-3 is CA,TX,FL 4-5 is GA,OH 5-10 is LA, PA, AZ, MD, NJ Those have been pretty consistent over the years. I cant believe some of you are still saying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Ararar said: Good to hear because last year they weren’t that great How do you figure GA was about as deep as anyone and had a couple teams as good as any besides Mater Dei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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