golfaddict1 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 GA 2021 OOS Analysis Only schools rated in the CalPreps Georgia top 100 in-state (national top 1000 approx) vs OOS opponents rated under 1000 (several rated higher than 1000 included) Notes: Massey has Greenville Christian, MS rated very low (much likely to do with a 2-0 forfeit win vs. a team rated over 13,000 in nation... differential issue) Rabun Gap is from GA but plays in a NC league... CP has them rated #3 in NC and by power rating, #25 in GA... Massey has Rabun Gap very low Massey predictions I believe were made based on the power rating formula Massey uses that adjusts on a weekly basis. Any questions, shoot away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: GA 2021 OOS Analysis Only schools rated in the CalPreps Georgia top 100 in-state (national top 1000 approx) vs OOS opponents rated under 1000 (several rated higher than 1000 included) Notes: Massey has Greenville Christian, MS rated very low (much likely to do with a 2-0 forfeit win vs. a team rated over 13,000 in nation... differential issue) Rabun Gap is from GA but plays in a NC league... CP has them rated #3 in NC and by power rating, #25 in GA... Massey has Rabun Gap very low Massey predictions I believe were made based on the power rating formula Massey uses that adjusts on a weekly basis. Any questions, shoot away. I'm having trouble opening the document. I'm not sure what the deal with that is. I'm using mobile and it says something about connection while trying to open it with Google drive which I use pretty regularly for such, but, I can see the sheet, I just can't blow it up without downloading Google sheets or something. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Not sure if this is legible… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Not sure if this is legible… Yes, I'm able to blow that up and read it. Thanks. It looks like 7 outperform and 7 not. Pretty even as far as that goes per the computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 A little clearer I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 11 hours ago, golfaddict1 said: Any questions, shoot away. What does it mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: What does it mean? It means Louisiana needs to find a way to get a skin on the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, RedZone said: What does it mean? Rather than show a W-L record with no data , I welcome the analytical exercise. 13 GA schools participated in quality OOS matchups. @BUFORDGAWOLVESsquad played in two, while Benedictine played two OOS opponents, losing to a lower rated school that wouldn't have made this list had Benedictine won the game. 5 GA schools challenged top 100 rated teams Hoover was favored to win vs. N. Gwinnett at home (NG rated above 250) and won convincingly (18 pts differential more than Massey's prediction). I'd say an underperformance by NG losing 38-14. Buford hosted Chaminade Madonna at home and was favored to win by 7 and lost by 7... were shutout as well. This on paper was a solid matchup between similarly rated top 100 teams. Someone has to lose, but the shutout on home turf leads me to placing Buford as an underperformance. Calhoun hosted TN power McCallie and lost by 18 points, nearly identical to Massey's prediction. Calhoun is rated 244 and 434, while McCallie is well within the top 100. Performance on par as predicted by Calhoun. Collins Hill beat current #1 in MS Greenville Christian at home 37-22. Massey has some F'd up rating for GC, partly or mostly due to a 2-0 forfeit win vs. a team rated over 13,000 (differential drop) and didn't have GC properly placed at the time of the game... so I'll simply state #1 GA vs #1 MS (CP #7 at home vs. #65 currently). 15 point win is a nice W, but on an elite national scale Greenville Christian MS is not a comp 25 candidate, while Collins Hill currently sits at #10. With that said, had GC won they would have been. I don't know what the deal is with Rabun Gap Nacoochee... GA location, but plays in a NC league. Anywhoooo, they faced a TN opponent in Baylor (similarly rated by CalPreps) and lost on the road by 14. Massey had them losing by 28 but he also F'd up their rating by not realizing their hybrid status. So ultimately, I'm basing this on CP ratings of 210 beating 216 at home by 14... that's an underperformance by the hybrid GA/NC school. To summarize: In the top 100 opponent games, #1 rated in GA held serve vs. MS #1 at home, but the rest of the schools (except Calhoun) underperformed. Milton had a solid W vs St Joseph's Prep PA. Massey had SJP winning by 17 at home and Milton won by 7. The rest of the slate speaks for itself looking at the data I provided. Buford held serve, Lowndes won a shootout, Columbus beat Benedictine, Benedictine lost to a much lower rated Beaufort SC and so on down the ratings of games. The Massey differential of 21 points for 14 games suggests GA outperformed by an avg. of 1.5 pts a game, but Massey's ratings are skewed in a few spots and I question some of these predictions as also being skewed for that reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 @Wildcat Will really got yall steamed about your states being scared to play oos comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ga96 said: @Wildcat Will really got yall steamed about your states being scared to play oos comp. I did this exercise to peel the onion from several meaningless W-L vs. OOS records he put out. I wouldn't be too pleased about the data either. Greenville Christian MS is the marquee win in this power state and unless Calhoun's performance excited you, nothing else to be excited about vs. top 100 opponents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Rather than show a W-L record with no data , I welcome the analytical exercise. 13 GA schools participated in quality OOS matchups. @BUFORDGAWOLVESsquad played in two, while Benedictine played two OOS opponents, losing to a lower rated school that wouldn't have made this list had Benedictine won the game. 5 GA schools challenged top 100 rated teams Hoover was favored to win vs. N. Gwinnett at home (NG rated above 250) and won convincingly (18 pts differential more than Massey's prediction). I'd say an underperformance by NG losing 38-14. Buford hosted Chaminade Madonna at home and was favored to win by 7 and lost by 7... were shutout as well. This on paper was a solid matchup between similarly rated top 100 teams. Someone has to lose, but the shutout on home turf leads me to placing Buford as an underperformance. Calhoun hosted TN power McCallie and lost by 18 points, nearly identical to Massey's prediction. Calhoun is rated 244 and 434, while McCallie is well within the top 100. Performance on par as predicted by Calhoun. Collins Hill beat current #1 in MS Greenville Christian at home 37-22. Massey has some F'd up rating for GC, partly or mostly due to a 2-0 forfeit win vs. a team rated over 13,000 (differential drop) and didn't have GC properly placed at the time of the game... so I'll simply state #1 GA vs #1 MS (CP #7 at home vs. #65 currently). 15 point win is a nice W, but on an elite national scale Greenville Christian MS is not a comp 25 candidate, while Collins Hill currently sits at #10. With that said, had GC won they would have been. I don't know what the deal is with Rabun Gap Nacoochee... GA location, but plays in a NC league. Anywhoooo, they faced a TN opponent in Baylor (similarly rated by CalPreps) and lost on the road by 14. Massey had them losing by 28 but he also F'd up their rating by not realizing their hybrid status. So ultimately, I'm basing this on CP ratings of 210 beating 216 at home by 14... that's an underperformance by the hybrid GA/NC school. To summarize: In the top 100 opponent games, #1 rated in GA held serve vs. MS #1 at home, but the rest of the schools (except Calhoun) underperformed. Milton had a solid W vs St Joseph's Prep PA. Massey had SJP winning by 17 at home and Milton won by 7. The rest of the slate speaks for itself looking at the data I provided. Buford held serve, Lowndes won a shootout, Columbus beat Benedictine, Benedictine lost to a much lower rated Beaufort SC and so on down the ratings of games. The Massey differential of 21 points for 14 games suggests GA outperformed by an avg. of 1.5 pts a game, but Massey's ratings are skewed in a few spots and I question some of these predictions as also being skewed for that reason. Rabun Gap Nacoochee is a private school (50K+ tuition) most expensive private school in the state.... Not exactly sure why they compete in NC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: I did this exercise to peel the onion from several meaningless W-L vs. OOS records he put out. I wouldn't be too pleased about the data either. Greenville Christian MS is the marquee win in this power state and unless Calhoun's performance excited you, nothing else to be excited about vs. top 100 opponents. It’s no surprise because top OOS games are a rarity with Georgia. You are not gonna find too many impressive results on a yearly basis. Most results will be expected. It confirms what I said about them scheduling OOS teams they think they can beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Rabun Gap Nacoochee is a private school (50K+ tuition) most expensive private school in the state.... Not exactly sure why they compete in NC... Maybe because they are next to the border and makes more sense. I’m not sure. I think the new coach came from Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 14 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: I'm having trouble opening the document. I'm not sure what the deal with that is. I'm using mobile and it says something about connection while trying to open it with Google drive which I use pretty regularly for such, but, I can see the sheet, I just can't blow it up without downloading Google sheets or something. Lol All the Georgia poster predicted Hoover would win easy and they did. I thought it would be closer like a 7 point game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: Rather than show a W-L record with no data , I welcome the analytical exercise. 13 GA schools participated in quality OOS matchups. @BUFORDGAWOLVESsquad played in two, while Benedictine played two OOS opponents, losing to a lower rated school that wouldn't have made this list had Benedictine won the game. 5 GA schools challenged top 100 rated teams Hoover was favored to win vs. N. Gwinnett at home (NG rated above 250) and won convincingly (18 pts differential more than Massey's prediction). I'd say an underperformance by NG losing 38-14. Buford hosted Chaminade Madonna at home and was favored to win by 7 and lost by 7... were shutout as well. This on paper was a solid matchup between similarly rated top 100 teams. Someone has to lose, but the shutout on home turf leads me to placing Buford as an underperformance. Calhoun hosted TN power McCallie and lost by 18 points, nearly identical to Massey's prediction. Calhoun is rated 244 and 434, while McCallie is well within the top 100. Performance on par as predicted by Calhoun. Collins Hill beat current #1 in MS Greenville Christian at home 37-22. Massey has some F'd up rating for GC, partly or mostly due to a 2-0 forfeit win vs. a team rated over 13,000 (differential drop) and didn't have GC properly placed at the time of the game... so I'll simply state #1 GA vs #1 MS (CP #7 at home vs. #65 currently). 15 point win is a nice W, but on an elite national scale Greenville Christian MS is not a comp 25 candidate, while Collins Hill currently sits at #10. With that said, had GC won they would have been. I don't know what the deal is with Rabun Gap Nacoochee... GA location, but plays in a NC league. Anywhoooo, they faced a TN opponent in Baylor (similarly rated by CalPreps) and lost on the road by 14. Massey had them losing by 28 but he also F'd up their rating by not realizing their hybrid status. So ultimately, I'm basing this on CP ratings of 210 beating 216 at home by 14... that's an underperformance by the hybrid GA/NC school. To summarize: In the top 100 opponent games, #1 rated in GA held serve vs. MS #1 at home, but the rest of the schools (except Calhoun) underperformed. Milton had a solid W vs St Joseph's Prep PA. Massey had SJP winning by 17 at home and Milton won by 7. The rest of the slate speaks for itself looking at the data I provided. Buford held serve, Lowndes won a shootout, Columbus beat Benedictine, Benedictine lost to a much lower rated Beaufort SC and so on down the ratings of games. The Massey differential of 21 points for 14 games suggests GA outperformed by an avg. of 1.5 pts a game, but Massey's ratings are skewed in a few spots and I question some of these predictions as also being skewed for that reason. I don’t have a problem with this analysis. Buford should’ve beat Madonna but with a caveat. Buford is about “life lessons” also, doing things the right way… the Buford Way. Green and Gold Baby. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 16 hours ago, golfaddict1 said: GA 2021 OOS Analysis Only schools rated in the CalPreps Georgia top 100 in-state (national top 1000 approx) vs OOS opponents rated under 1000 (several rated higher than 1000 included) Notes: Massey has Greenville Christian, MS rated very low (much likely to do with a 2-0 forfeit win vs. a team rated over 13,000 in nation... differential issue) Rabun Gap is from GA but plays in a NC league... CP has them rated #3 in NC and by power rating, #25 in GA... Massey has Rabun Gap very low Massey predictions I believe were made based on the power rating formula Massey uses that adjusts on a weekly basis. Any questions, shoot away. Raburn Gap does not play in a Carolina league. How stupid must one be to think a team in one state can play in another states leagues? No question needed for those that have no knowledge. Raburn Gap is a GHSA school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Rabun Gap Nacoochee is a private school (50K+ tuition) most expensive private school in the state.... Not exactly sure why they compete in NC... They play NC schools because if location. Quite simple really. Raburn plays in 8AA-GHSA. Their region consist of Elbert Co., Union County, Riverside Military and Banks County. I just love it when the mouth's are speaking but the brain has no knowledge of the subject.........don't you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Wildcat Will said: How stupid must one be to think a team in one state can play in another states leagues? How dumb are you gonna feel when you find out that Truckee (CA) is a member of the Nevada state association? Probably as dumb as you'll feel when you find out that Rabun Gap-Nacoochee is a member of the NCISAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted October 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: How dumb are you gonna feel when you find out that Truckee (CA) is a member of the Nevada state association? Probably as dumb as you'll feel when you find out that Rabun Gap-Nacoochee is a member of the NCISAA. I rest my case. He’s an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: How dumb are you gonna feel when you find out that Truckee (CA) is a member of the Nevada state association? Probably as dumb as you'll feel when you find out that Rabun Gap-Nacoochee is a member of the NCISAA. No problem. That move in Cali was purely financial. Totally financial. Made sense at the time. The push is on now to stop that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 O.k. I stand corrected. Rabun County is the Georgia school located in Tiger, Ga, is different from Rabun Gap. They are 21 minutes apart in the Rabun Gap of the North Georgia mountains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted October 20, 2021 Report Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Wildcat Will said: I just love it when the mouth's are speaking but the brain has no knowledge of the subject.........don't you? 😂😂😂 Holy shit that saying didn’t go as planned now did it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ararar said: 😂😂😂 Holy shit that saying didn’t go as planned now did it I think “age well” is the phrase you’re looking for. 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 hours ago, Wildcat Will said: No problem. That mive in Cali was purely financial. Totally financial. Made sense at the time. The push is on now to stop that. South Tahoe, North Tahoe and Needles High also play in the NIAA even though they are in California. It’s due to proximity and being closer to Nevada schools and being more isolated from California schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted October 21, 2021 Report Share Posted October 21, 2021 Isolation is acceptable for such a situation. Not understanding is more an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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