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9 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Ran a 4.6 40 for Hank Stram barefooted.  😂 

He was set on basketball, but Hank was interested (Chiefs HC at the time).  

He was a very good volleyball player, I read.   

We will never know how great Wilt could have been because he didn't train or eat properly . The guy would stay up all night partying and didn't want to practice. He was famous for eating half a pie and chasing it down with a quart of milk during halftimes of his games . Imagine if he took  seriously his health, supplemented by the training methods that today's athletes have . In H.S. he was a high jump and 440 champion . He had tremendous natural strength also. Same could be said about Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantel if they stopped the partying and embraced conditioning and dietary disciplines , how much greater they could have been in their sport.  

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27 minutes ago, CaliNorth said:

We will never know how great Wilt could have been because he didn't train or eat properly . The guy would stay up all night partying and didn't want to practice. He was famous for eating half a pie and chasing it down with a quart of milk during halftimes of his games . Imagine if he took  seriously his health, supplemented by the training methods that today's athletes have . In H.S. he was a high jump and 440 champion . He had tremendous natural strength also. Same could be said about Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantel if they stopped the partying and embraced conditioning and dietary disciplines , how much greater they could have been in their sport.  

Indeed and agreed.  

Wilt was very strong, impressing Arnold during a workout and supposedly Wilt lifted Arnold off the ground with one arm.  

Dwight Gooden comes to mind as another example, along with Strawberry (Mets teammates).   

With Mick also, that Fing sprinkler head in the OF was a career killer.  
He was never the same in speed and limped badly in the late stage of career.  

Even from the right side, he was a burner down the first base line.  His power was tremendous, but he was also very fast.  

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1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said:

Indeed and agreed.  

Wilt was very strong, impressing Arnold during a workout and supposedly Wilt lifted Arnold off the ground with one arm.  

Dwight Gooden comes to mind as another example, along with Strawberry (Mets teammates).   

With Mick also, that Fing sprinkler head in the OF was a career killer.  
He was never the same in speed and limped badly in the late stage of career.  

Even from the right side, he was a burner down the first base line.  His power was tremendous, but he was also very fast.  

I remember reading that Mick had the fastest time ever recorded running to first base from home plate . Even if that wasn't exact , the guy still could fly . But playing high on pot or drunk ( Billy Martin ) it was bound to catch up to him

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11 minutes ago, RedZone said:

Armand Duplantis and it's really not even debatable.

Nope, sorry. He’s not even the greatest track athlete. Single sport athletes need not apply. He’s a specialist thru out his whole career. Now I think he’d probably do very well in the decathlon if he trained for it.

When I first saw this thread I knew that Red would name someone with LA ties even if it made zero sense.

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45 minutes ago, Norcalnut said:

Nope, sorry. He’s not even the greatest track athlete. Single sport athletes need not apply. He’s a specialist thru out his whole career. Now I think he’d probably do very well in the decathlon if he trained for it.

When I first saw this thread I knew that Red would name someone with LA ties even if it made zero sense.

Mondo ran a 10.5 100 Meters at a region track meet in Louisiana just playing around..... that speed is part of his success. There's currently not a better natural athlete than Mondo. 

It takes a very strong athlete to do what he does.

Don't be a hater.

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I don't think Jackie Robinson gets enough discussion in these conversations.  

 

This is copy/paste from NCAA

 

 

Jackie Robinson begins at a junior college

Robinson was born in Cairo, Georgia, but his family moved to Pasadena, California in 1920. After high school, Robinson enrolled at Pasadena Junior College — now Pasadena City College — and was a four-sport star in baseball, football, basketball and track and field. According to the California Community Colleges website, Robinson batted .417 with 43 runs scored in 24 games for the school in 1938. On the football field, he still owns a school record for the longest run from scrimmage, 99 yards.

 

Baseball struggles at UCLA

Robinson enrolled at UCLA in 1939 and again was a four-sport letter-winner in football, basketball, track and field and baseball. But in the sport he would become famous for, Robinson struggled. According to the school’s website, Robinson posted a .097 batting average for the Bruins in 1940. Despite his pains at the plate, Robinson remained in the lineup due to his fielding expertise and quickness along the base path. As a pro, Robinson stole home plate 19 times in his career. Robinson’s best college baseball game might have been his first at UCLA, where he had four hits and stole four bases.

 

A gridiron star

While most folks are aware of Robinson’s accomplishments on the baseball diamond, they might not know that he was a pretty phenomenal football player too. In fact, football might have been his best sport as a college athlete. In 1939 and 1940, he led the nation in punt return average. In 1940, he led the Bruins in passing (444 yards), rushing (383 yards) and scoring (36 points).

The student newspaper for rival Stanford called him “Lightning Jackie Robinson” and he was known for big plays. According to the New York Times, he returned a punt 64 yards in an Oct. 7, 1939 game to help the Bruins beat the Washington Huskies. Three weeks later, he caught a touchdown pass that went 66 yards for a score to help UCLA top Oregon. In addition to starring on offense and special teams, Robinson also played safety on defense.

On that 1939 team, Robinson was one of four African American players for the Bruins, which made it the most integrated major college football team at the time. That team went undefeated with six wins and four draws. Coached by Babe Horrell, they were seventh in the final AP Poll. Robinson earned All-Pac-10 honors.

 

Stellar in hoops

Robinson was a solid basketball player too, despite being shorter than many players at 5-foot-11. Robinson was West Coast Conference MVP in basketball for UCLA. In one game, on Feb. 12, 1940, he torched Stanford for 25 points. He averaged 12.4 points per-game in 1940 and 11.1 points per-game in 1941.

Record-setter in track and field

Robinson remains the only UCLA athlete to ever letter in four sports. He missed most of the 1940 track season because of his baseball duties, but won the Pacific Coast Conference and NCAA titles in long jump with leaps of 25-0 and 24-10. Had the 1940 and 1944 Olympics not been canceled due to World War II, Robinson likely could have competed.

 

 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2023-04-14/jackie-robinson-ucla-four-sport-star-notable-moments

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1 hour ago, pied said:

I don't think Jackie Robinson gets enough discussion in these conversations.  

 

This is copy/paste from NCAA

 

 

Jackie Robinson begins at a junior college

Robinson was born in Cairo, Georgia, but his family moved to Pasadena, California in 1920. After high school, Robinson enrolled at Pasadena Junior College — now Pasadena City College — and was a four-sport star in baseball, football, basketball and track and field. According to the California Community Colleges website, Robinson batted .417 with 43 runs scored in 24 games for the school in 1938. On the football field, he still owns a school record for the longest run from scrimmage, 99 yards.

 

Baseball struggles at UCLA

Robinson enrolled at UCLA in 1939 and again was a four-sport letter-winner in football, basketball, track and field and baseball. But in the sport he would become famous for, Robinson struggled. According to the school’s website, Robinson posted a .097 batting average for the Bruins in 1940. Despite his pains at the plate, Robinson remained in the lineup due to his fielding expertise and quickness along the base path. As a pro, Robinson stole home plate 19 times in his career. Robinson’s best college baseball game might have been his first at UCLA, where he had four hits and stole four bases.

 

A gridiron star

While most folks are aware of Robinson’s accomplishments on the baseball diamond, they might not know that he was a pretty phenomenal football player too. In fact, football might have been his best sport as a college athlete. In 1939 and 1940, he led the nation in punt return average. In 1940, he led the Bruins in passing (444 yards), rushing (383 yards) and scoring (36 points).

The student newspaper for rival Stanford called him “Lightning Jackie Robinson” and he was known for big plays. According to the New York Times, he returned a punt 64 yards in an Oct. 7, 1939 game to help the Bruins beat the Washington Huskies. Three weeks later, he caught a touchdown pass that went 66 yards for a score to help UCLA top Oregon. In addition to starring on offense and special teams, Robinson also played safety on defense.

On that 1939 team, Robinson was one of four African American players for the Bruins, which made it the most integrated major college football team at the time. That team went undefeated with six wins and four draws. Coached by Babe Horrell, they were seventh in the final AP Poll. Robinson earned All-Pac-10 honors.

 

Stellar in hoops

Robinson was a solid basketball player too, despite being shorter than many players at 5-foot-11. Robinson was West Coast Conference MVP in basketball for UCLA. In one game, on Feb. 12, 1940, he torched Stanford for 25 points. He averaged 12.4 points per-game in 1940 and 11.1 points per-game in 1941.

Record-setter in track and field

Robinson remains the only UCLA athlete to ever letter in four sports. He missed most of the 1940 track season because of his baseball duties, but won the Pacific Coast Conference and NCAA titles in long jump with leaps of 25-0 and 24-10. Had the 1940 and 1944 Olympics not been canceled due to World War II, Robinson likely could have competed.

 

 

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/article/2023-04-14/jackie-robinson-ucla-four-sport-star-notable-moments

Solid choice.  👍🏻

 

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1 hour ago, RedZone said:

Mondo ran a 10.5 100 Meters at a region track meet in Louisiana just playing around..... that speed is part of his success. There's currently not a better natural athlete than Mondo. 

It takes a very strong athlete to do what he does.

Don't be a hater.

You do know the topic is greatest athlete all time not greatest this month. Until he does something else that’s world class  he’s just the best pole vaulter of all time.

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8 hours ago, Rufus69 said:

My answer?

 

Secretariat

 

 

 

 

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Negative-splitted the Derby.  2:24 for the Belmont.  Tied the track record for the mile in winning the 1.5 mile Belmont.  “But Secretariat is all alone!”

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5 hours ago, golfaddict1 said:

*Dave Winfield - Modern choice  

Similarly credentialed to Winfield was Danny Ainge. Dude played in the majors with the Jays while playing hoop at BYU (second youngest guy in team history to homer after Vlad Jr) and transitioned to a successful NBA career. Per BYU he's the only three-sport high school All-American as he was a very good receiver in football.

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