Some California news

[1DayPGA]

On 2/7/2019 at 10:50 AM, GardenStateBaller said:

One thing we talked about for 2020 was maybe including DLS as the third Cali team and naming the event the "California vs The USA" tripleheader. 

Here's one for you GSB. Cali vs a particular state and rotate each year. 

SJB, MD, & DLS vs 3 teams from FL.

"                                                      " GA.

"                                                      " NJ.

"                                                      "TX.    wishful thinking. 😳

 

Kinda like the Herbie used to be with Ohio.

[Extremely Humble]

Prepgridiron's very own darling, our beloved Folsom Bulldogs, have finally hired their new head coach, Paul Doherty. Coach Doherty was the WR & Strength coach last season for the Bulldogs.  There was a ton of candidates for this coveted position but the school decided to go with a coach already familiar with the players and system. What moved the needle in Doherty's favor was the players wanting him. There were whispers of some key players looking at other options if they didn't get the right coach but this move will keep the players and community happy. 

Coach Doherty was last a HC at Sacramento High with a record of 42-18 from 2010-2014, including a run to the Sac-Joaquin Section D3 title game in 2013. 

I'm okay with the hire. Here's to hoping he doesn't play it as safe as Richardson. 

[Slotback Right]

Mercury News has printed an article called "Why These Three Mater Dei Transfers Caught De La Salle's Attention."

The article refers to the two senior transfers to Mater Dei this season from Rancho Cucamonga, who transferred in to play football, and then transferred back to RC to participate in signing day and finish their senior year.

The third student did exactly the same thing transferring from Roosevelt HS to Mater Dei for one semester to play football, then returned to Roosevelt for his last semester.

Coach Justin Alumbaugh made it clear that there are no sour grapes about the result on the field, but in the same breath, drove home the point that DLS does not operate that way.

"...transferring for a semester, that's transferring for one specific thing. It's so far outside our scope that it was surprising and discouraging to see."

"...I don't know of anyone who could've imagined it getting to this level."

Alumbaugh was reponding to a report in the LA Times. 

Those of us who have been attacked on the local boards for criticizing this kind of behavior at Mater Dei (and SJ Bosco) are finally being vindicated on those boards, as even a few Mater Dei posters are conceding that it looks bad, and isn't the way things should be in HS football.

Yet, as Ararar posted above, Mater Dei is still at it, taking a huge 2020 star OL/DL (6'3" 295) from La Habra HS.😠

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/08/football-why-these-mater-dei-transfers-caught-de-la-salles-attention/

[The Stache]

2 hours ago, Extremely Humble said:

Prepgridiron's very own darling, our beloved Folsom Bulldogs, have finally hired their new head coach, Paul Doherty. Coach Doherty was the WR & Strength coach last season for the Bulldogs.  There was a ton of candidates for this coveted position but the school decided to go with a coach already familiar with the players and system. What moved the needle in Doherty's favor was the players wanting him. There were whispers of some key players looking at other options if they didn't get the right coach but this move will keep the players and community happy. 

Coach Doherty was last a HC at Sacramento High with a record of 42-18 from 2010-2014, including a run to the Sac-Joaquin Section D3 title game in 2013. 

I'm okay with the hire. Here's to hoping he doesn't play it as safe as Richardson. 

Congratulations to Coach Doherty who is a fine Christian man.  We've seen him at various coaching clinics over the years and believe he will do a fine job at Fillmore.

[Eddyr2]

4 hours ago, Slotback Right said:

 Yet, as Ararar posted above, Mater Dei is still at it, taking a huge 2020 star OL/DL (6'3" 295) from La Habra HS.😠

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02/08/football-why-these-mater-dei-transfers-caught-de-la-salles-attention/

Hey look everyone it’s a Servite fan on a National Board pretend that the Fryers didn’t take in 20+ transfers including  7 kids from 1 school (Los Al) last year...

 

[The Shadow]

On 2/7/2019 at 2:41 PM, Kalven said:

I'd favor DLS over both MV and Oaks but I think Cen10 might beat DLS in a close one.

"I don't believe you can truly be successful if you focus soley on winning.  In my opinion a successful program must be about more than outcomes"

[Slotback Right]

1 hour ago, Eddyr2 said:

Hey look everyone it’s a Servite fan on a National Board pretend that the Fryers didn’t take in 20+ transfers including  7 kids from 1 school (Los Al) last year...

 

Hey look everyone, it's a Monarch fan falling back on the "see everybody does it" excuse.

Of course, he doesn't mention that all but one of them entering Servite were sophomores that nobody ever heard of, coming in to fill the vacancies that occur at every private school, when freshmen or their parents decide they can't handle the demands of a private school.

Not quite the same as Mater Dei's practice of poaching other schools' 4* and 5* senior players, now is it?

[Eddyr2]

5 hours ago, Slotback Right said:

Hey look everyone, it's a Monarch fan falling back on the "see everybody does it" excuse.

Of course, he doesn't mention that all but one of them entering Servite were sophomores that nobody ever heard of, coming in to fill the vacancies that occur at every private school, when freshmen or their parents decide they can't handle the demands of a private school.

Not quite the same as Mater Dei's practice of poaching other schools' 4* and 5* senior players, now is it?

Sounds like Servite does it too...just not that well...

[Pops]

11 hours ago, Slotback Right said:

Hey look everyone, it's a Monarch fan falling back on the "see everybody does it" excuse.

Of course, he doesn't mention that all but one of them entering Servite were sophomores that nobody ever heard of, coming in to fill the vacancies that occur at every private school, when freshmen or their parents decide they can't handle the demands of a private school.

Not quite the same as Mater Dei's practice of poaching other schools' 4* and 5* senior players, now is it?

I’d feel better if MD and SJB just owned what they do 

nonone said they’re breaking a rule but no one is stupid enough to believe the “everyone doing it” bs that should have been proscribed when they were around three or four years old 

[Bestcoast]

2 hours ago, Pops said:

I’d feel better if MD and SJB just owned what they do 

nonone said they’re breaking a rule but no one is stupid enough to believe the “everyone doing it” bs that should have been proscribed when they were around three or four years old 

There is nothing to own. Kids want to go to great programs.

Are you saying they Recuit? 

[Pops]

55 minutes ago, Bestcoast said:

There is nothing to own. Kids want to go to great programs.

Are you saying they Recuit? 

If there’s nothing to own what are Md’s internal discussions about? 

You may feel that there’s nothing to see but others are entitled to question a program that borrows students for a sports season (or a year or or two) while and/ or suddenly has become attractive well beyond its core geography for a very narrow range of large and fast transfer students 

just don’t play dumb — it’s unworthy of you 

[Bestcoast]

30 minutes ago, Pops said:

If there’s nothing to own what are Md’s internal discussions about? 

You may feel that there’s nothing to see but others are entitled to question a program that borrows students for a sports season (or a year or or two) while and/ or suddenly has become attractive well beyond its core geography for a very narrow range of large and fast transfer students 

just don’t play dumb — it’s unworthy of you 

They’re not borrowing. Parents are choosing to enroll there kids in those schools. We live in an open market society. I’m all for that. 

 

[Pops]

52 minutes ago, Bestcoast said:

They’re not borrowing. Parents are choosing to enroll there kids in those schools. We live in an open market society. I’m all for that. 

 

I understand but you’re going all Canes and choosing to put your head in sand on subject of discussion 

Md and SJB (among others) definitely doing something new and different that is:

— consistently/ producing teams with more quantity/ quality of high end talent  than has ever been seen before (outside of IMG which emerged just prior to SJB), teams so good that, we’re they to stick together for 4 years, could be high end Power 5 teams themselves 

— raising questions about fair play, elitism, school culture and the football team’s place in it, hsfb’s mission(s), “ballers”, helicopter parents, alienation if 4-year kids, prima Donnas, sportsmanship, etc 

you can defend it and that’s fair — just don’t think it’s fair to pretend it doesn’t exist 

“it” being whatever is fueling these otherwise impossible rosters of high end talent — “it” is something a school can apparently choose to turn on/off (as MD at least appears to be considering)

 

 

[World Citizen]

57 minutes ago, Bestcoast said:

They’re not borrowing. Parents are choosing to enroll there kids in those schools. We live in an open market society. I’m all for that. 

 

What is it they are doing then if not borrowing these kids?  Or maybe it's the kids borrowing these schools.  Idk.  

What does a 'open market society' mean in the hsfb world of kids?  

It is what it is obviously but it is equally obvious that it will be scrutinized.  

I am not impressed by a team that fills their rosters with 4 and 5* kids and then goes and wins a championship.  I am impressed with teams who coach their kids and make them better than they were and in doing that they learn the life lessons that hsfb is great at teaching them.  Imho, you lose a lot of the lessons when you have a team that has new kids every fall and some for only 4 months.  

I do wonder what college coaches think about this.  Do they think twice about recruiting a kid who went to 3 or 4 different high schools just because he thought he needed a trophy?  

[Exocet 98]

Pops is just another NorCal bitter butt hurt cry baby who watched his team again humbled and lose 3 straight CIF SBG's . DLS's swiss cheese pourous defense bent over and allowed an average of 47 points in 3 embarassing losses. I hope the NorCal baby seal slap dick teams watch tape on how it is done. The DLS 27 year 300 + win streak against NorCal slappies is beyond embarassing. NorCal will never get any respect nationally until the streak ends.

[Bestcoast]

1 hour ago, Exocet 98 said:

Pops is just another NorCal bitter butt hurt cry baby who watched his team again humbled and lose 3 straight CIF SBG's . DLS's swiss cheese pourous defense bent over and allowed an average of 47 points in 3 embarassing losses. I hope the NorCal baby seal slap dick teams watch tape on how it is done. The DLS 27 year 300 + win streak against NorCal slappies is beyond embarassing. NorCal will never get any respect nationally until the streak ends.

Although I like the Pops and the fellas up in Nocal, you make a very valid point!

[TheMaximumHornetSting]

18 hours ago, Eddyr2 said:

Hey look everyone it’s a Servite fan on a National Board pretend that the Fryers didn’t take in 20+ transfers including  7 kids from 1 school (Los Al) last year...

 

That's some mighty strong shade you're throwing there... 

Better be careful... 

Sometimes that shade comes back... 

[Slotback Right]

7 hours ago, World Citizen said:

I am not impressed by a team that fills their rosters with 4 and 5* kids and then goes and wins a championship.  I am impressed with teams who coach their kids and make them better than they were and in doing that they learn the life lessons that hsfb is great at teaching them.  Imho, you lose a lot of the lessons when you have a team that has new kids every fall and some for only 4 months.  

Exactly! I have always disliked Mater Dei HS, but I used to respect them. Not any more.

IMHO, Rollinson's best coaching job was 2011. I knew that they were going to lose almost all of their best players to graduation after 2010. Yet, in 2011, despite failing to make the playoffs, Rollinson managed to upset eventual CIF Div1 Champion Santa Margarita, and came within 1 TD of League Champ Servite, when their final play Hail Mary pass was knocked away in the Servite End zone. That deserved respect. 

But evidently failing to make the playoffs was too much for Rollinson to take, and his program hasn't been the same since. Winning by assembling 4*and 5* all-star teams via transfers, has stripped the Monarchs of all the respect they used to deservedly receive. Now they struggle just to find schools that are willing to schedule games with them in California.

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

This should keep the Haters busy cleaning up their own backyard instead of peeking over the fence to see what their neighbor is doing all the damn time.

How do you defend this?

Regards,

BGW

[Ararar]

42 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

This should keep the Haters busy cleaning up their own backyard instead of peeking over the fence to see what their neighbor is doing all the damn time.

How do you defend this?

Regards,

BGW

http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/i-team/transfer-win-state-title-transfer-back-did-newton-hs-player-mock-the-system

[Ararar]

Seven McGee is coming back to California to enroll at Narbonne.Played as a Freshman at Grace Brethen then transferred to Narbonne but before playing a game moved to New York

 

“Prior to his one season with East, he was named a preseason All-American by MaxPreps after leading his former school, Grace Brethen in Simi Valley, California, to the CIF 2A state championship game as a freshman.

He transferred to Narbonne in the spring before moving back home to Rochester in the summer.

McGee committed to Oregon in April before reopening his recruitment in September. He reaffirmed his pledge to the Ducks on Nov. 26 after taking a visit to Syracuse earlier that month.

The University of Southern California and Florida were among the other suitors in his recruitment.”

[Ararar]

Top performers at SoCal the opening 

 

ALPHA DOG- WR GARY BRYANT 

 

Corona (Calif.) Centennial wide out Gary Bryant was our Alpha Dog, top performer of the day. He ran one of the fastest 40s of the day with a 4.46 clocking, was the top receiver in the camp during the cat and mouse, make you miss drills and was uncoverable in the one on ones. Bryant isn’t just a one dimensional speed guy, he has very good hands, runs clean routes and is dynamic after the catch. He can definitely get deep and was running past opposing corners all day. He earned an invite to The Opening Finals following the camp.

 

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Justin Flowe was as good as advertised and maybe even better if that's possible. He has leaned out and said he dropped about 10 pounds since last year and looks quicker and more explosive. He tested well, looked great in the drills and still plays with the same aggressive edge that really sets him apart from just about every other player we have seen come out of the SoCal region. He's a natural leader and has a rare ability to elevate everyone around him because of how maniacal he plays. He landed an invite to The Opening Finals for the second year in a row following the event.

 

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DE KOREY FOREMAN

 

Corona (Calif.) Centennial defensive end Korey Foreman earned DL MVP honors and was right there in the Alpha Dog discussion after his incredible performance. Foreman looks like a college player right now in terms of his size, skill set and physicality. He was the top sophomore at the camp and is just scratching the surface of how good we think he can be in a few years. He definitely looks like a future five-star prospect and will have his choice of any school in the country when he's a senior. 

 

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LB NOAH SEWELL

 

The Orem, Utah, standout posted the second-best football rating during testing, registering an impressive 4.25 shuttle time to go along with a 35.7-inch vertical at 6-feet-2 and 266 lbs. Noah Sewell backed it up in drills, too, turning in a physical performance and shutting down running backs in one-on-one matchups to earn the linebacker MVP award. He was unquestionably one of the alphas in the event and proved why his offer list features programs from all over the country.

 

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DB CLARK PHILLIPS

 

La Habra (Calif.) defensive back Clark Phillips was the most consistent defensive back of the day in our eyes and earned an invite to The Opening Finals following the event. He ran a 4.54-40, jumped 35" in the vertical and was very good in the one on one drills. He really shined when corners went to press coverage. He either launched an opposing receiver out of bounds or ran stride for stride with them down the field.

 

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WR JOHNNY WILSON 

 

Calabasas (Calif.) wide out Johnny Wilson was our No. 2 receiver of the day and impressed on multiple fronts. He measured in at 6-6, 220 pounds and had the 3rd highest Rating in the camp, highlighted by a 4.59-40 and a 46’ power ball throw. For a big receiver, Wilson showed the ability to separate down the field, has huge hands and made a ton of contested catches in the one on ones. He recently cut his list of schools down to five- Ohio State, Oregon, Texas, UCLA and Washington. 

 

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QB JACK MILLER

 

Unaffected by the gusty and rainy conditions, the Ohio State commit from Scottsdale (Ariz.) Chaparral showed off his cannon right arm to zip passes all over the field. Jack Miller easily completed throws to the opposite sideline and flashed the mechanics that make for a smooth release. His strong arm and down-field accuracy helped him earn QB MVP honors for the event and a ticket to the Elite 11 Finals this summer.

 

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QB BRYCE YOUNG

 

No one was better airing the ball down field than the USC commit from nearby Santa Ana (Calif.) Mater Dei. Bryce Young repeatedly beat cornerbacks deep in one-on-one battles, putting nice touch on heaves and hitting receivers in stride. He’s an ultra athlete that makes things happen in space but continues to show that he can get the job done in the pocket, too. Young earned an invite to this summer’s Elite 11 Finals.

 

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ATH DARNELL WASHINGTON

 

Darnell Washington is a big, athletic tight end from Las Vegas (Nev.) Desert Pines and had a top 15 test score, which was impressive given that he measured 6 feet, 7 1/2 inches and 248 lbs. He moves well down field and has a wide catch radius. Washington was a matchup nightmare in the red zone where he could use his size to reach over defenders for possession. On the recruiting front, the four-star prospect said he hopes to get to Miami, Oregon, UCLA and USC in the coming months.

 

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OL DRAKE METCALF 

 

Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco offensive lineman Drake Metcalf earned OL MVP honors while working out at both guard and center. Metcalf is a very strong kid and technically as sound a high school lineman as you will find. He plays tackle for the Braves but will move inside and play as interior lineman in college. He's a very physical player, has a nice mean streak and always competes at a very high level. 

 

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AIR FORCE SPECIAL OPS COMBINE CHAMPION- LB KOURT WILLIAMS 

 

Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco athlete Kourt Williams was awarded the Air Force Special Ops Combine Champion of the day, given to the player with the top testing score. Williams finished with a 137.94 Rating after measuring in at 6-1, 216 pounds, running a 4.60-40, 4.09 shuttle, 39.3” vertical jump and a 41’ power ball throw. Williams is much more than just a tester, he’s a tremendous football player who could play safety or linebacker at the next level. He's a hybrid defensive player who can run and hit and carries a 3.5 GPA off the field as well.

[Bodysurf]

6 hours ago, Ararar said:

Seven McGee is coming back to California to enroll at Narbonne.

 

[Ararar]

 

[Eddyr2]

17 minutes ago, Ararar said:

 

Hmmmmm...