FootballGuy Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Would y'all say that it's a bad look for private schools to lose to public schools considering all the advantages that a private school has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Would y'all say that it's a bad look for private schools to lose to public schools considering all the advantages that a private school has? No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Would y'all say that it's a bad look for private schools to lose to public schools considering all the advantages that a private school has? I will speak for the MD/DC area and say it would be a crushing defeat. Right now, area public schools won’t schedule teams like St. John’s or St. Frances Academy and the feeling is mutual. SJC, and SFA to a lesser extent, want flashy national games. You’ll get one or two public teams that schedule DeMatha, Good Counsel, or Gonzaga, but those are running clock situations. The gap between public and private in MD/DC is about as large as it gets. NJ’s situation is comparable. The closest public school is probably Wise or Friendship Collegiate. Centreville in VA was nationally ranked for a few years before Gonzaga took them down on ESPN fairly easily. DeMatha waxed Oscar Smith the next year. But yes, it would be a horrible look for a top MD/DC private to lose to a MD/DC public. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 35 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Depends on the states involved. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Grayson beats BC. NJ is not a Top 5 hsfb state, while GA is. Conversely, if SJB loses to Cen10, is that really a bad look? I think not. Back in the day, I never overly gloated when DBP beat teams like Manatee, Prattville and MV. IMO they were the favorites to begin with based on the associated advantages we all knew they had. Hypothetical situation: So let's say if chandler woulda beat MD last season..... would that be a bad look for MD considering that AZ isn't a top 5 hsfb state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 36 minutes ago, Cossacks said: No How wouldn't it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Looking at a few games of the past: STA vs Centennial (AZ) Miami Central vs BG Trinity vs DLS Miami Central vs Don Bosco Prep Colquitt County vs Bishop Sullivan We all know how these games turned out... and considering the advantages of privates, y'all really don't think that the outcomes of these games isn't a bad look for the losers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Is it a bad look when GA’s best team gets beat 56-0? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Pops said: Is it a bad look when GA’s best team gets beat 56-0? Once again, who are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: The STA loss is the worst of that group IMO. Gotta agree with you right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 minute ago, FootballGuy said: Once again, who are you? The voice of reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pops said: Is it a bad look when GA’s best team gets beat 56-0? 1 minute ago, FootballGuy said: Once again, who are you? Can I get a response? imho, that was most embarrassing loss for a state in hsfb history and always will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Norcrossed will live in infamy.Anyway back on topic no I don’t think so.If Centennial stops IMG 2pt conversion would it have been a bad look? I don’t think so because there are a lot of great public schools.Sure private schools have some advantages but not all the best players are heading to privates 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, FootballGuy said: Would y'all say that it's a bad look for private schools to lose to public schools considering all the advantages that a private school has? Nope, it all depends on the values and culture in place. Are you talking known “football” privates or just in general? Publics are strong in Ga, no shame here. Regards, C.A. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Looking at a few games of the past: STA vs Centennial (AZ) - AZ open enrollment . Transfer rule has changed in the last few years with students having to sit out half the season, but Higley seems to be in a better position to succeed for 2018 https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/04/14/qb-matt-purnell-latest-football-transfer-desert-ridge-gilbert-higley-s-move-desert-ridge-gives-higle/517726002/ Miami Central vs BG - MC is in a healthy location for athletes and transfers are common in SoFL Trinity vs DLS - I'll defer to the TX brethren on this, but certainly the high Polynesian population with ballers helps Miami Central vs Don Bosco Prep - See above on MC Colquitt County vs Bishop Sullivan - I'll defer to the GA brethren on this one We all know how these games turned out... and considering the advantages of privates, y'all really don't think that the outcomes of these games isn't a bad look for the losers? Some publics can reach out from their district zoning and/or have lax transfer rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: Depends on the states involved. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Grayson beats BC. NJ is not a Top 5 hsfb state, while GA is. Conversely, if SJB loses to Cen10, is that really a bad look? I think not. Back in the day, I never overly gloated when DBP beat teams like Manatee, Prattville and MV. IMO they were the favorites to begin with based on the associated advantages we all knew they had. The one thing that I can appreciate from NJ is that coaches don’t pretend not to recruit in the private schools. They are willing to tell you that they have financial aide for the players who need it too. totally different story in California. I have witnessed these conversations with my ears at the AFCA convention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, Pops said: Can I get a response? imho, that was most embarrassing loss for a state in hsfb history and always will be IMO DLS getting beat by Bellevue having the streaked stopped by OOS team was most embarrassing lost. Personally, I have respect for Norcross on the way they pulled themselves together after humiliating defeat like that to win always tough GA state title. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 I don’t like private schools...However, if they don’t hide behind what they do - then I can respect them. At the end of the day...The best in Texas public schools can match up with the best private schools nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Texasball said: I don’t like private schools...However, if they don’t hide behind what they do - then I can respect them. At the end of the day...The best in Texas public schools can match up with the best private schools nationally. What's your feeling on texas privates ramping up their rosters and playing 5A/6A schools? Do you think publics should avoid them like they do IMG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 11 minutes ago, Texasball said: IMO DLS getting beat by Bellevue having the streaked stopped by OOS team was most embarrassing lost. Personally, I have respect for Norcross on the way they pulled themselves together after humiliating defeat like that to win always tough GA state title. 7 minutes ago, Texasball said: I don’t like private schools...However, if they don’t hide behind what they do - then I can respect them. At the end of the day...The best in Texas public schools can match up with the best private schools nationally. Seems like you give a bit more rope to publics having your worst team in 30 years lose to a public that was later sanctioned for cheating or having your state’s best team stomped 56-0 by a neighbor I’d like to talk about the unfair advantages of publics — their enrollments are much higher in average and I paid more money to theblocal school that my kids did not attend than I did to send 3 kids to private schools — they (Monte Vista) have a Jumbotron and much, much nicer facilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: What's your feeling on texas privates ramping up their rosters and playing 5A/6A schools? Do you think publics should avoid them like they do IMG? More likely just based on history of other states facing same dilemma, there will be a sort of capitulation whereby transfer rules are relaxed for everyone I realize that’s anathema to TX culture but that’s what others have done when faced with same dilemma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pops said: More likely just based on history of other states facing same dilemma, there will be a sort of capitulation whereby transfer rules are relaxed for everyone I realize that’s anathema to TX culture but that’s what others have done when faced with same dilemma I hope they do. Students n parents should be allowed to make decisions in their best interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 32 minutes ago, Texasball said: IMO DLS getting beat by Bellevue having the streaked stopped by OOS team was most embarrassing lost. Is it though, knowing what we now know about Bellevue at that time? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Depends on the states involved. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Grayson beats BC. NJ is not a Top 5 hsfb state, while GA is. Conversely, if SJB loses to Cen10, is that really a bad look? I think not. Back in the day, I never overly gloated when DBP beat teams like Manatee, Prattville and MV. IMO they were the favorites to begin with based on the associated advantages we all knew they had. Can u define what a top Hsfb is???like what does it take to be a top 5 State? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 55 minutes ago, Texasball said: The one thing that I can appreciate from NJ is that coaches don’t pretend not to recruit in the private schools. They are willing to tell you that they have financial aide for the players who need it too. totally different story in California. I have witnessed these conversations with my ears at the AFCA convention You're assuming that private schools operate in the same manner everywhere, which isn't the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Cossacks said: No This is the correct answer to a silly question.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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