HawgGoneIt Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, badrouter said: A reasonable way to deal with a team like Marietta is to call them a sleeper; a team to watch. And then outline the reasons why they may surprise and be dramatically better. But they shouldn't actually be placed highly in the rankings until they've done something to warrant as much. This applies even if they end up undefeated, champions etc. They don't deserve to start the season that highly ranked. They can't prove me wrong, because my claim is in no way a prediction of how their season will go. Reasonable and Max Preps? Max Preps can't even spell reasonable. Or proof read. Or stop double posting on their team schedules. Or, or, or. Somehow, they have one of the highest traffic sites for rankings and schedules etc. in spite of being error ridden and kinda poorly at picking winners of games and that type stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, bigrobstercraws said: Didn't JSerra finish ranked in some final nation Top 25 polls with 3 losses, (MD, SJB & Oaks)? I think so and I remember wondering at the time if it was because of their SOS and that they played SJB a lot closer than people thought they would or if they were deserving. This was a couple of years ago I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 12:02 PM, Ararar said: Folsom and Centennial shouldn’t be in the top 25 as far as California goes. outstanding the amount of games between the top ten teams Can't speak on CC, but I agree regarding Folsom. They return some good talent, but with 95% of the coaching staff turning over, along with losing some very good talent, it's hard for me to buy into them being top 25. Top 100 might even be a stretch. Let 'em prove it with the new coaches first. On 7/22/2019 at 12:11 PM, MC Rockets said: Agreed...I feel that MP does cater to California teams a bit. Then when you factor in they also use Calpreps ranking for the computer part, which is a complete crapshow. It makes it really obvious to the West coast bias. This is a persistent and consistent weak take from the anti-CA crowd. While I agree that Folsom shouldn't be on the list to start this season, CA should have a lot of representation. Hoping otherwise is a merely pipe dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Reasonable and Max Preps? Max Preps can't even spell reasonable. Or proof read. Or stop double posting on their team schedules. Or, or, or. Somehow, they have one of the highest traffic sites for rankings and schedules etc. in spite of being error ridden and kinda poorly at picking winners of games and that type stuff. What I don't understand is why those that hate MP and/or CP spend so much time reading then bantering about them. Quite perplexing. FWIW, I'm not a huge fan either. But I also don't get riled up over their rankings, especially if my particular region isn't where I believe it should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Rockets Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, ThunderRam said: Can't speak on CC, but I agree regarding Folsom. They return some good talent, but with 95% of the coaching staff turning over, along with losing some very good talent, it's hard for me to buy into them being top 25. Top 100 might even be a stretch. Let 'em prove it with the new coaches first. This is a persistent and consistent weak take from the anti-CA crowd. While I agree that Folsom shouldn't be on the list to start this season, CA should have a lot of representation. Hoping otherwise is a merely pipe dream. Let's be clear my statement was towards the system, not the schools. Don't just assume I am anti California. I was a big fan of DLS while they had their run. At the end of the day these are kids. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetlarry Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 I’m getting a real kick out of the meltdown here over Marietta. Most preseason rankings are based off of that publications opinion of potential. Not what they did last year. That’s ridiculous. Why would anybody rank a team that won state last year highly because of that sole reason?! Circumstances change. Players change. Coaches change. All kinds of variables change. It’s all one entities opinion. We may agree or disagree. Marietta has as much potential as anybody in jawja. Means nothing if we can’t fulfill it. I just cant think of anybody in the state that I’d definitively say is the best. It isn’t 2018. It’s a new year and many teams have new coaches, new players, different schemes and agendas. To melt over a perceived slight to your team (or anybody else’s) in July is a hoot. All I want for Marietta (and everybody for that matter) is for everybody to stay healthy and let the chips fall. If our best isn’t good enough, tip of the cap to who is. Carry on....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 You can place a fancy name on the poll, but it doesn’t change the likely theme of one person’s opinion... this is the Zack Poff preseason poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Idk about clear cut. Clearly the Max Preps experts would argue against the Packers. The season is long and a lot of stuff could happen, so I'm not a buyer on a team that loses a couple of kids to transfer rules last year and falls through the floor. If I had a "reputation" for ranking teams, well, I'd be going with a balanced approach of historical evidence, talent and coaching. Probably would lean on historical evidence as my wild card if I have any questions about who belongs. Just my thoughts on ranking. Pretty much the thought processes that I'll go into the pick 'em with again too. I don't have a problem with MP rating Marietta in the Top 25. Shoot...I don't have a problem with the AJC rating Marietta No.1 in Georgia. I mean...it all comes out in the wash. Our Hawgs could be good enough to make some noise if certain things come to fruition. But right now...the ONLY thing that matters is August 24th in the Benz against North Gwinnett. Lime Sink sources up around Suwanee say them "little dogs" have had this game circled since their schedule was announced.. I'd like for Colquitt to play well. Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, Columbiafan said: What? Did you not see where it was announced as a regular season game yesterday? I made a thread for that announcement Missed it. Will check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 38 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: I don't have a problem with MP rating Marietta in the Top 25. Shoot...I don't have a problem with the AJC rating Marietta No.1 in Georgia. I mean...it all comes out in the wash. Our Hawgs could be good enough to make some noise if certain things come to fruition. But right now...the ONLY thing that matters is August 24th in the Benz against North Gwinnett. Lime Sink sources up around Suwanee say them "little dogs" have had this game circled since their schedule was announced.. I'd like for Colquitt to play well. Rufus>> Lowndes returning 16 starters... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Lowndes returning 16 starters... Hoss...a couple of things.... 1. Randy McPherson would be surprised to learn he's not the HC of the Vikings anymore. So would about 1500 TD Club members. And as far as starting QB goes....Lowndes is hopeful they have one. Mr. Almond moved up the road to Tift. But the facts shouldn't stop a good storyline. 2. The Vikings couldn't beat the Hawgs this year...even with binoculars. Rufus>> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Hoss...a couple of things.... 1. Randy McPherson would be surprised to learn he's not the HC of the Vikings anymore. So would about 1500 TD Club members. And as far as starting QB goes....Lowndes is hopeful they have one. Mr. Almond moved up the road to Tift. But the facts shouldn't stop a good storyline. 2. The Vikings couldn't beat the Hawgs this year...even with binoculars. Rufus>> Would you believe 15 starters? Joe Ross? https://gseagles.com/news/2008/1/8/GEN_6298.aspx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 hours ago, World Citizen said: I think so and I remember wondering at the time if it was because of their SOS and that they played SJB a lot closer than people thought they would or if they were deserving. This was a couple of years ago I think. It was last year. They also beat Pinnacle before 5 star Spencer Rattler got suspended. I thought they were the best team in AZ with him at QB. And they body bagged Calabasas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Reasonable and Max Preps? Max Preps can't even spell reasonable. Or proof read. Or stop double posting on their team schedules. Or, or, or. Like I stated before Max Preps Currently has our Defensive Coordinator as Offensive Tackle on roster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:05 AM, Wosinc said: Let’s analyse this. You make a dumb-ass assertion stating something happens “all the time.” Any half way intelligent person would, even allowing for hyperbole, interpret that to mean at least 50% of the time, if not more. I ask you to name, of the roughly 10,000 high school teams playing football each year, a mere three that went 0.500 in one year and “won it all” the next (your words). Mind you, this includes the whole fucking history of high school football, not just last year. I did the research looking back at the past ten years in the states of NV, AZ, HI, CA, and UT. Not one team has gone from a .500 or lower season one year to a state championship winner in the next year (highest classification only). NV: Gorman, Liberty, Reed AZ: Chandler, Centennial, Saguaro, Mtn Pointe, Hamilton UT: Bingham, Lone Peak CA: St John Bosco, MD, DLS HI: St Louis, Kahuku, Mililani, Punahou These are the most dominant teams out west. And have managed to win the majority of their respective state titles. I did find out that 2014 East (UT) went 5-6 and then went 11-2 in 2015. Winning the smaller 4A title. I’m not going to bother researching all of the smaller classifications. So it is possible in the smaller less competitive classes and states. But it is still rather rare. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Las Vegas_JC said: I did the research looking back at the past ten years in the states of NV, AZ, HI, CA, and UT. Not one team has gone from a .500 or lower season one year to a state championship winner in the next year (highest classification only). NV: Gorman, Liberty, Reed AZ: Chandler, Centennial, Saguaro, Mtn Pointe, Hamilton UT: Bingham, Lone Peak CA: St John Bosco, MD, DLS HI: St Louis, Kahuku, Mililani, Punahou These are the most dominant teams out west. And have managed to win the majority of their respective state titles. I did find out that 2014 East (UT) went 5-6 and then went 11-2 in 2015. Winning the smaller 4A title. I’m not going to bother researching all of the smaller classifications. So it is possible in the smaller less competitive classes and states. But it is still rather rare. you guys are pure morons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, noonereal said: you guys are pure morons Wow I did a little bit of research that benefitted your previous statement and you direct this comment at me? Stay classy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Las Vegas_JC said: Wow I did a little bit of research that benefitted your previous statement and you direct this comment at me? Stay classy! This is typical of him whenever anyone asks him to justify one of his nonsense claims. Never a bit of solid info, just deflection and insults. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 12:08 PM, golfaddict1 said: Lowndes returning 16 starters... On 7/24/2019 at 12:31 PM, Rufus69 said: Hoss...a couple of things.... 1. Randy McPherson would be surprised to learn he's not the HC of the Vikings anymore. So would about 1500 TD Club members. And as far as starting QB goes....Lowndes is hopeful they have one. Mr. Almond moved up the road to Tift. But the facts shouldn't stop a good storyline. 2. The Vikings couldn't beat the Hawgs this year...even with binoculars. Rufus>> On 7/24/2019 at 1:08 PM, golfaddict1 said: Would you believe 15 starters? Joe Ross? https://gseagles.com/news/2008/1/8/GEN_6298.aspx @Rufus69 MNW (Mudhole Next, Welcome) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 Golf....you keep getting high on them Vikings. Randy Mac's All-World team ain't nothing but a bunch of "paper tigers". You heard it here first..... Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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