DevilDog Posted December 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 22 hours ago, On2whls said: I would love to see USC return to the upper echelon of College football but I’m not sure Lincoln Riley is the answer. It’s not like he took over a program that wasn’t already heavily offensively biased and capable of scoring a lot, and all those great numbers are, after all, against Big 12 defenses. I’m not at all impressed with Alex Grinch. OU defense just hasn’t improved enough under his guidance to make me a believer. I think he improves USC, but I don’t expect to see USC dominate the PAC-12 the way OU has dominated the Big 12. The PAC 12 is tremendously heinous and OU wasn't going undefeated every year in the Big 12. In the PAC 12 he only has to beat one team. Exhibit A. BYU which is coming to the BIG 12 has dominated the PAC 12. 5 - 0 against them, right now BYU would be the best team in the PAC 12. 3 of the 5 on the Road. All he has to do is duplicate BYU to be dominate. That will not be hard to do. He's gonna love playing those horrible teams each week. BYU VS the PAC 12 BYU 35 USC 31 BYU 21 WSU 19 BYU 27 ASU 17 BYU 26 UTAH 17 (PAC 12 Division Winner) Arguably the best PAC 12 Team BYU 24 ARIZONA 16 Meanwhile BAYLOR 38 - BYU 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 hours ago, DevilDog said: OU wasn't going undefeated every year in the Big 12. Did I say they were going undefeated or dominating the big 12? 6 straight Big 12 titles is dominance. Big 12 and PAC 12 are pretty much shit overall compared to the rest of the power 5 conferences. 4 hours ago, DevilDog said: He's gonna love playing those horrible teams each week. It will feel just like home for him. Each week another patsie. Still, I don’t see him ever winning six straight PAC 12 championships. He’s gonna attract plenty of good offensive talent, but not enough talented defenders are signing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted December 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, On2whls said: Did I say they were going undefeated or dominating the big 12? 6 straight Big 12 titles is dominance. Big 12 and PAC 12 are pretty much shit overall compared to the rest of the power 5 conferences. It will feel just like home for him. Each week another patsie. Still, I don’t see him ever winning six straight PAC 12 championships. He’s gonna attract plenty of good offensive talent, but not enough talented defenders are signing on. The Big 12 is far better than the PAC 12. There are 2 Big 12 teams in the top 8 and 3 in the top 15. Look no further than the Alamo Bowl each year where top teams from both Conferences meet. Hell KSU crushed Stanford to begin the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, DevilDog said: The Big 12 is far better than the PAC 12. There are 2 Big 12 teams in the top 8 and 3 in the top 15. Look no further than the Alamo Bowl each year where top teams from both Conferences meet. Hell KSU crushed Stanford to begin the year. The Big 12 is better this year for sure but not by much. I wouldn't use the Stanford-KSU game as a barometer at all. Stanford finished 11th out of 12. KSU finished 5th out of 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, DevilDog said: The Big 12 is far better than the PAC 12. There are 2 Big 12 teams in the top 8 and 3 in the top 15. Look no further than the Alamo Bowl each year where top teams from both Conferences meet. Hell KSU crushed Stanford to begin the year. OOF... I got more respect for you than this... Conference thumping and humping is worthless... Each conference is truly only 2/3 teams deep tbh... Except the ACC...idk what happened to them this year...but for this year: ACC: Wake Forest Clemson Pittsburgh SEC: Georgia Alabama Big Ten: The team that shall not be named Ohio State Iowa Big 12: Oklahoma Oklahoma State Pac-12: Utah Oregon Arizona State I look forward to seeing what UCLA does next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 hours ago, DevilDog said: The PAC 12 is tremendously heinous and OU wasn't going undefeated every year in the Big 12. In the PAC 12 he only has to beat one team. Exhibit A. BYU which is coming to the BIG 12 has dominated the PAC 12. 5 - 0 against them, right now BYU would be the best team in the PAC 12. 3 of the 5 on the Road. All he has to do is duplicate BYU to be dominate. That will not be hard to do. He's gonna love playing those horrible teams each week. BYU VS the PAC 12 BYU 35 USC 31 BYU 21 WSU 19 BYU 27 ASU 17 BYU 26 UTAH 17 (PAC 12 Division Winner) Arguably the best PAC 12 Team BYU 24 ARIZONA 16 Meanwhile BAYLOR 38 - BYU 24 Only you could claim that going 5-0 against the Pac-12 by a total of 33 points is "domination." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: The Big 12 is better this year for sure but not by much. I wouldn't use the Stanford-KSU game as a barometer at all. Stanford finished 11th out of 12. KSU finished 5th out of 10 BYU beat 1-11 Arizona by a TD and he's claiming that they dominated the Pac-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: BYU beat 1-11 Arizona by a TD and he's claiming that they dominated the Pac-12. I think he meant dominated in the W/L category. Then Baylor beat the like a rented mule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said: I think he meant dominated in the W/L category. It doesn't matter. They went 5-0 by a total of 33 points. That's not domination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Then Baylor beat the like a rented mule Baylor beat them 38-24. They won but it wasn't domination either. It's a bullshit narrative being driven by a biased Texan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 dom·i·na·tion /ˌdäməˈnāSH(ə)n/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. the exercise of control or influence over someone or something, or the state of being so controlled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Seems like BYU in fact did exercise control over the Pac12. So they did dominate them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Baylor beat them 38-24. They won but it wasn't domination either. It's a bullshit narrative being driven by a biased Texan. Baylor was winning 31-14 in the 4th quarter. They were dominating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Hey I fuck with Baylor. I been to Waco. Went to a Baylor game. Years ago Back when KMart was closing their stores they brought a bunch of shit from Sears who also was closing, and for some reason, the KMart in Tampa had a shit ton of Baylor gear. I got 4 Nike Dri Fit Baylor shirts for $5 each when they were valued at $45 each. I still wear them all the time. I swear every person at my kids football and cheer practice think I went to Baylor. Naw bitch I went to Kmart on Florida Avenue!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Seems like BYU in fact did exercise control over the Pac12. So they did dominate them. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of football. They played 5 games against a middling collection of teams and were only +33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: You have a fundamental misunderstanding of football. They played 5 games against a middling collection of teams and were only +33. No they played the best team in the conference, the worst team, and a couple middle tier ones. It was the most balanced schedule you could possible get from a conference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted December 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 50 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: I think he meant dominated in the W/L category. Then Baylor beat the like a rented mule Never try to explain logic to an illogical fool. You are correct and clearly understand context. They played the best team middle and bottom. 5 - 0. Name another Conference this applies to. The PAC 12 sucks and not just this year.. since 2010 the PAC12 plays the Big 12 in Alamo Bowl with top Echelon teams. Big 12 8 - 3 vs PAC 12. Not humping Big 12. Just showing it should be easier for Lincoln to dominate them. Tell him to throw in a BYU tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 hours ago, On2whls said: Still, I don’t see him ever winning six straight PAC 12 championships. He’s gonna attract plenty of good offensive talent skill players, but not enough talented defenders linemen are signing on. FIFY I find it perplexing that people are focusing on all these skill players that Riley is attracting. Won't make a difference unless USC gets a line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: No they played the best team in the conference, the worst team, and a couple middle tier ones. So on balance = middling I'm not convinced that Utah is the best team but I think they're at worst second best. The rest were Arizona (0-8), USC (3-5), Washington State (6-3) and Arizona State (6-3). For a combined Pac-12 record of 24-20. Middling almost by definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, DevilDog said: The PAC 12 sucks Then why are you bragging about BYU beating a middling assortment of their teams by an average of about 6 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, DevilDog said: Not humping Big 12. Just showing it should be easier for Lincoln to dominate them. Tell him to throw in a BYU tape How much easier could it be than going 37-7 and winning four Big 12 championships in five years like he did at Oklahoma? It's utterly buffoonish to claim that +33 over 5 games by BYU is domination yet Lincoln Riley will have it easier in the PAC-12 after going 37-7 and winning 4 conference titles in the Big 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 LR is going to turn the MD pipeline back on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladin4ever Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 Just lost his first big stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalnut Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, paladin4ever said: Just lost his first big stud. It wasn’t his stud. With the roster in shambles under Helton he thought just being on campus would make him first string but that may not be the case under Riley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 To for those that don't know what domination looks like. 45 - 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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