Wosinc Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 hours ago, The Guru said: Winning programs generally don't lose players. And winners certainly don't flag transfers. You’re assuming that all transfers are for athletic reasons. That’s not necessarily true. It’s not inconceivable that a player, even a key player, on a winning team might have to transfer because one or the other of his parents got a better job at some distance from their current home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Texasfrog said: Breaking News.... People moved into Allen and Katy TX this year. Breaking New... Breaking News!! Exhibit A - The running back at Katy from South Carolina. With the best economy in the country people are headed to Texas. on average 1000 people are moving into Texas per day. Read this article. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2019-05-23/everything-is-bigger-in-texas-census-data-shows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 UIL clears up misconceptions around Demas ruling Joshua Koch Aug 21, 2019 Comment after comment was made in response to the UIL State Executive Committee's decision of ruling Tomball receiver Demond Demas ineligible to play his senior season at Tomball by a 6-0 vote. Due to the decision, Demas had the option to either return to North Forest or seek a private school route. Instead, the No. 2-ranked recruit in Texas for the 2020 class, who is verbally committed to Texas A&M, will sit out his senior season of varsity play and stay at Tomball High School. The reactions on social media have ranged from questioning the decision, attacking North Forest High School and Houston ISD's academic track record, the UIL rules on transfers and more. VYPE reached out to the UIL office to clear up what have become some common misconceptions the public is creating around this decision by the State Executive Committee. MISCONCEPTION: This happened because Demond Demas is a 5-star recruit? UIL: "No, that is not part of the decision-making process ... The quality of the athlete or how high-profile it is really has no bearing on the proceedings. When it gets to the State Executive Committee it's an entirely new hearing. If there's any new information, the District Executive Committee's decision is presented as information, but it's a totally new chance for the student to make his case." MISCONCEPTION: He should be able to leave North Forest because HISD has been failing Texas Educational Agency ratings. UIL: "The State Executive Committee will look at whatever the family provides as documentation as reason for the move. So, the family can choose to provide whatever they like." MISCONCEPTION: All appeals are denied by the State Executive Committee. UIL: "If you look at the historic trend, between 60 and 70 percent are denied." 2018-2019 SEC Stats 51 Appeals*36 Denied* 11 Approved 3 Withdrawn 70.59% SEC Upheld Previous Decision 2017-2018 SEC Stats 36 Appeals*22 Denied* 11 Approved 3 Withdrawn 61.11% SEC Upheld Previous Decision 2016-2017 SEC Stats 48 Appeals*31 Denied* 14 Approved 2 Withdrawn 61.11% SEC Upheld Previous Decision In the past 10 years, going from the 2009-2010 to the 2018-2019 seasons, the SEC has heard 455 student eligibility appeals. Of those, 310 were denied and 118 were approved and 24 were withdrawn. Over the 10-year period that VYPE looked at, 68 percent of appeals were denied 26 percent were approved. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So.... almost 70% of transfer request that reach the UIL State Executive Committee get denied. In California for Mater Dei and St.Johns Bosco.... That number is 0%!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Texasball said: Exhibit A - The running back at Katy from South Carolina. With the best economy in the country people are headed to Texas. on average 1000 people are moving into Texas per day. Read this article. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2019-05-23/everything-is-bigger-in-texas-census-data-shows Stop it TxBall... It isn't about the red hot economy in Texas where people are moving into from all over (Especially California). It's about playing football for Katy or Allen Public School. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: Hey Mater Dei and you other California Private school "Recruited Up" -- ALL-STAR TEAMS loons. Two questions? 1. Where do all the Mater Dei players live? I bet you can draw a 30 Mile circle around Mater Dei and there is players that live outside that. People have cars in SoCal. I’m sure some parents love there kids so much they are will to drive them to a school a little out of the way to give them a better life. I used to take the bus for 1.5 hours to go to MD. It was worth it. 21 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: 2. I see the Mater Dei tuition is approximately $16,000 (not including fees). Do all the Mater Dei football players pay the full tuition? No the majority of students do not pay full tuition. In fact 55% of all students are on financial aid that is paid for the diocese and donors. Over $6 millions is give to lower income students every year so then can attend MD. The vast vast vast majority are not on 247. You should donate to the fund and help a kid live out his/her dream. Link is below: https://www.materdei.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=70159&type=d&pREC_ID=1061778 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: MISCONCEPTION: He should be able to leave North Forest because HISD has been failing Texas Educational Agency ratings. So the kid wants to leave a failed, crappy school and cannot because the UIL wants to have power over families and children? How is that good for the kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: People have cars in SoCal. I’m sure some parents love there kids so much they are will to drive them to a school a little out of the way to give them a better life. I used to take the bus for 1.5 hours to go to MD. It was worth it. No the majority of students do not pay full tuition. In fact 55% of all students are on financial aid that is paid for the diocese and donors. Over $6 millions is give to lower income students every year so then can attend MD. The vast vast vast majority are not on 247. You should donate to the fund and help a kid live out his/her dream. Link is below: https://www.materdei.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=70159&type=d&pREC_ID=1061778 What % of the 3, 4, 5 Star rated football players are on financial aide —— is it equal to the total or more How many starters at MD right now are either in the 1st or 2nd year at the school and how many them has played varsity level football at another school i would like to see this for SJB also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 This is fact- The other AD’s in the district with Allen will never do them the favor of approving kid who has not fully met the rules for transferring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, Texasball said: What % of the 3, 4, 5 Star rated football players are on financial aide —— is it equal to the total or more i am guessing 55% due to the fact that number is true of the whole school 23 minutes ago, Texasball said: How many starters at MD right now are either in the 1st or 2nd year at the school and how many them has played varsity level football at another school 3 (4 if you count the kicker) 23 minutes ago, Texasball said: i would like to see this for SJB also i dont have those numbers... I have a question, does Duncanville have any high profile tranfers? https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/08/16/four-star-football-recruits-marquez-beason-and-zeriah-beason-transfer-from-bishop-dunne-to-duncanville/ And like i said before i am okay with the kids doing whats best for them. and you know why i am okay with it? cause im not a hypocrite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 The UIL only gets involved if the district AD’s have voted agaist the transfer and if the athlete and his family appeal to them. its way to competitive here to simply transfer with out meeting the requirements you don’t believe me. Read this article - Hell fire this kids mother worked for the school district and he was still denied. PS this kid is headed to Vanderbilt next year http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/dfwvarsity/prep-football/article155357319.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Eddyr2 said: i am guessing 55% due to the fact that number is true of the whole school 3 (4 if you count the kicker) i dont have those numbers... I have a question, does Duncanville have any high profile tranfers? https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/2018/08/16/four-star-football-recruits-marquez-beason-and-zeriah-beason-transfer-from-bishop-dunne-to-duncanville/ And like i said before i am okay with the kids doing whats best for them. and you know why i am okay with it? cause im not a hypocrite Fact those kids lived in Duncanville and went to private school at Bishop Dunne in Dallas. Living with in the school zone trumps everything. Marquez was 10.5 100m kid - is now at Univ Illinois and is out for the season {knee} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just now, Texasball said: Fact those kids lived in Duncanville and went to private school at Bishop Dunne in Dallas. Living with in the school zone trumps everything. So? What does that have to do with the fact they transferred? If kids only transfer to MD to play football then the same must be said for Duncanville. If not you are being hypocritical. Thus they name of the thread Just now, Texasball said: Marquez was 10.5 100m kid - is now at Univ Illinois and is out for the season {knee} Cool. Glad to hear. Glad he had the choice to transfer. It would be a shame if a bureaucrat took his right to the education he wanted a away from him. That would be almost evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Texasball said: What % of the 3, 4, 5 Star rated football players are on financial aide —— is it equal to the total or more How many starters at MD right now are either in the 1st or 2nd year at the school and how many them has played varsity level football at another school i would like to see this for SJB also Once again I ask you to donate to the fund: https://www.materdei.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=70159&type=d&pREC_ID=1061778 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: So? What does that have to do with the fact they transferred? If kids only transfer to MD to play football then the same must be said for Duncanville. If not you are being hypocritical. Thus they name of the thread Cool. Glad to hear. Glad he had the choice to transfer. It would be a shame if a bureaucrat took his right to the education he wanted a away from him. That would be almost evil. This difference is being recruited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Texasball said: This difference is being recruited How do we know there wasn’t any recuiting? You can’t prove a negative. So if you feel MD transfers are all recruited in kids but don’t feel the same way about DV or Allen kids... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Just found this on another thread - talking about MD coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Texasball said: Just found this on another thread - talking about MD coach Cool. You are quoting a guy with 16 screen names... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasvic Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Eddyr2 said: So? What does that have to do with the fact they transferred? If kids only transfer to MD to play football then the same must be said for Duncanville. If not you are being hypocritical. Thus they name of the thread Cool. Glad to hear. Glad he had the choice to transfer. It would be a shame if a bureaucrat took his right to the education he wanted a away from him. That would be almost evil. The beason cousins were at duncanville hs before they went to the private school. They were only there for one year then they moved back to duncanville hs. Which was last year before we knew duncanville was duncanville. One is at college already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Here is 4 Bryan Hs football players who tried to transfer. 3 of 4 got denied https://www.theeagle.com/brazos_sports/three-of-four-bryan-transfer-football-players-back-with-vikings/article_eae988f0-4c1b-11e9-ad00-27b83e66d9b6.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stache Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Texasball said: Just found this on another thread - talking about MD coach Look pal, give it a rest. Our kids are trying to prepare for a big OOS on the road football game and they don’t need to be distracted by your innuendos. When we go up 21-0 just know we did it to show you Texas fellows what a National Champuon looks like . #GoFox #DillyDilly #RedFocus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Texasball said: Just found this on another thread - talking about MD coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 13 hours ago, steeler01 said: Probably a utility bill(something easily manipulated by a family member). Or open a P O Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Where Loyola's kids playing ball lived last year. Texas doing this shit too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Texasfrog said: Stop it TxBall... It isn't about the red hot economy in Texas where people are moving into from all over (Especially California). It's about playing football for Katy or Allen Public School. California moving to Texas https://www.economist.com/special-report/2019/06/20/many-people-are-moving-from-california-to-texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 Another article about California moving to Texas https://www.dallasnews.com/business/real-estate/2018/06/26/see-how-many-californians-moved-to-dallas-in-just-3-months-last-year/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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